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WTF with Marc Maron Podcast

Episode 1686 - Barack Obama

13 Oct 2025

1h 7m duration
9530 words
4 speakers
13 Oct 2025
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For the final episode of WTF, Marc travels to Washington, DC for another conversation with the most significant guest in the show’s history. Former President Barack Obama welcomes Marc into his office to speak about the legacy of the podcast, the need for human connection, and the reason for optimism in the face of challenging times. Also, President Obama grants Marc’s specific request to help bring some closure to the past sixteen years of WTF. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0.031 - 35.782 Marc Maron

All right, let's do this. How are you, folks? This is it. This is the last episode of WTF. I didn't really know what we were going to do for this episode. Initially, I thought, well, maybe I could just talk to you guys and reflect. But we did that on Thursday. So then it came down to, well, who are we going to have on the last episode?

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36.263 - 58.81 Marc Maron

And well, you know, I do a lot of talking about how I feel about the world, both interior and exterior, micro, macro, what's going on in me, how am I reacting to what's going on in the world? And it became clear that the guest we needed to have was singular.

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58.857 - 88.318 Marc Maron

in that he could address the importance of this being our final episode, but also address how we move through the world we're living in, as frightening as it is, with what's happening. And how do we do it with some grace and perhaps some hope and some focus and really call on what's going on, what it is. And that guest is President Barack Obama. So I went to Washington, D.C.

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88.699 - 122.547 Marc Maron

He came to my house the last time, so I figured I'd go to him. And we sat down for about an hour plus, and we talked about a lot of things. But I think there's a lot of grounding, sort of instructive, in this conversation about how we frame where we're at and how we think about it and what's necessary. So this is me talking to Barack Obama, President Barack Obama, in Washington, D.C.,

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135.368 - 164.701 Barack Obama

Can I say, before we start, or whenever you want to start, to me, I can't imagine anything tougher or more terrifying than doing stand-up comedy. So once you do that, I mean, everything else is... Is easy? I won't say easy. I'm saying... Not as frightening. Yeah. The... To me, standing alone on a stage and hoping a bunch of people laugh at your stuff.

165.062 - 175.045 Marc Maron

Yeah. You get used to it, but not unlike, I'm sure, your gig. Sometimes it's not going to go exactly right.

175.025 - 184.721 Barack Obama

It's not always going to – you're not always going to hit it out of the park. Right. But I guess what I'm saying is at a certain point for you, there's got to be just – you've had a lot of reps.

185.021 - 185.382 Marc Maron

Yeah.

185.402 - 186.624 Barack Obama

Reps are helpful, man.

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