Marcela Mora y Araujo

from a very, very young age.

It's only when he starts playing semi-professionally as a sort of prepubescent kid that Dr. Kaye meets him and says, I think this child is malnourished.

So there's this extraordinary thing whereby we all watched him as a nation and in the world and delighted in him, but also didn't notice this kind of depravity and hunger that he came from.

And I think that is...

something that runs throughout his life.

So there's an anger in him and a sort of wanting to show everybody and prove them wrong, particularly the 86 squad, which was very questioned before the World Cup and had even, you know, the president of Argentina said maybe we should sack the manager.

And there was a lot of criticism from the press and from the public generally.

So when they actually won the World Cup and the game against England being a huge stepping stone there,

There's this kind of incredible sense that Maradona has shown everybody, proved them wrong.

And if you've seen the film Heroes, which was the official FIFA footage of that World Cup, there's a scene where the Argentinian press officer of the Football Association allows the cameras into the dressing room and they're all shouting, we dedicate this to everybody, full of obscenities as if it was, you know, a real point to prove, which has...

Been married on his relationship with the press right up until 2010 when he was manager and he also kind of dedicated obscenities and profanities at various journalists, you know, to prove.

But I think this idea that he had to prove himself against the world is what...

And I think if the second half of those few minutes hadn't been the most incredible goal anybody's ever seen, you know, the goal that Dutch people say is a miracle and Bangladeshi people pray to and so on.

And even Lineker himself has said he wanted to clap at the other end of the pit.

You know, there's no one that wasn't...

If it had just been the hand goal, then that would have been a completely different story to Maradona.

And if it had just been the amazing goal, it would also have been a complete... So that sort of yin and yang of the ugly and the beautiful is what totally embodies him and personifies him, the game of football itself and perhaps Argentina's relationship to it.

Well, it's huge.

I mean, we'll have to see where 26 hides it or diminishes it somehow.

It was very revered as the last great thing that happened and it was obviously Maradona's World Cup.