Marcia Zug

Radiolab.

From WNYC.

Well, the name of the case is baby girl versus adoptive couple.

Yeah.

Associate Professor of Law at the University of South Carolina.

Matt and Melanie Capobianco, they are a couple who live down here in South Carolina.

I believe she's in Oklahoma.

She's pregnant and decides that she wants to give the baby up for adoption.

And she picks the Capo Biancos.

And everyone seems happy.

In session on the docket today, a young child ripped from the arms of the only parents she's ever known.

And turned over to the Native American biological father she has never met.

A man Veronica had never even met.

The 1978 Indian Child Welfare Act.

He's part of the Cherokee Nation.

Yeah, when she's... I mean, to her, they're complete strangers, and I can't imagine that she's not going to be terrified.

I mean, if you're someone who has no background in this, then you see a case like the baby Veronica case and you're like, whoa, where's this coming from?

How can this possibly be okay?

I mean, what is a culture except, you know, the ideas and traditions that you pass on to your kids?

If you are hemorrhaging your children, then you're going to disappear.