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Yes, of course it does. Because here's the thing. The way you design a game console or a hardware meant to play games as its primary or one of its main functions, it has to come with the controllers that it needs. Right.

Yes, of course it does. Because here's the thing. The way you design a game console or a hardware meant to play games as its primary or one of its main functions, it has to come with the controllers that it needs. Right.

that's what of course of course the quest comes with controllers they all they all have for like you know the whole quest is only like i think the entry level one is like 300 bucks now including the controllers like of course it does i think about the single xbox elite 2 controller i have cost close to that much yeah probably it's not a headset it's just a controller

that's what of course of course the quest comes with controllers they all they all have for like you know the whole quest is only like i think the entry level one is like 300 bucks now including the controllers like of course it does i think about the single xbox elite 2 controller i have cost close to that much yeah probably it's not a headset it's just a controller

Trying to make the Vision Pro have gaming as one of its significant uses I think is never going to work because the Vision Pro is not a good game console, even if it came with actual game controllers in the box, which if they want to be serious about it, it needs to come in the box. But even if it did... The Vision Pro is, first of all, way too expensive to be a game console.

Trying to make the Vision Pro have gaming as one of its significant uses I think is never going to work because the Vision Pro is not a good game console, even if it came with actual game controllers in the box, which if they want to be serious about it, it needs to come in the box. But even if it did... The Vision Pro is, first of all, way too expensive to be a game console.

It's also way too heavy. You've got to get rid of the dangling battery. Because what games are popular in VR? Most of them are motion games where you're moving. You have things like the rhythm games like Beat Saber and whatever the version of it is for version OS. You have rhythm games. You have virtual shooting games where you're turning around constantly.

It's also way too heavy. You've got to get rid of the dangling battery. Because what games are popular in VR? Most of them are motion games where you're moving. You have things like the rhythm games like Beat Saber and whatever the version of it is for version OS. You have rhythm games. You have virtual shooting games where you're turning around constantly.

You have stuff like Gorilla Tag, which is massively popular online. On Quest, where you're being physical. You're physically moving around in the headset. You have the wonderful ping pong game, Eleven Table Tennis, where you're physically playing ping pong. You have games where you're moving a lot. The Vision Pro is so not made for motion on so many levels.

You have stuff like Gorilla Tag, which is massively popular online. On Quest, where you're being physical. You're physically moving around in the headset. You have the wonderful ping pong game, Eleven Table Tennis, where you're physically playing ping pong. You have games where you're moving a lot. The Vision Pro is so not made for motion on so many levels.

It's terribly physically designed for it. The screens have too much motion blur and have too much latency for that. I mean pass-through latency. There's so much about the Vision Pro that is...

It's terribly physically designed for it. The screens have too much motion blur and have too much latency for that. I mean pass-through latency. There's so much about the Vision Pro that is...

clearly not designed for the kind of games that people enjoy on the quest series right now so this whole idea of trying to make game controllers compatible with it is is not gonna go anywhere i i'm very optimistic if they get good content out there like video and sports and experiential content division pro is designed for that kind of thing it is not designed for motion and games

clearly not designed for the kind of games that people enjoy on the quest series right now so this whole idea of trying to make game controllers compatible with it is is not gonna go anywhere i i'm very optimistic if they get good content out there like video and sports and experiential content division pro is designed for that kind of thing it is not designed for motion and games

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So this is probably not a good time to suggest this, but I was thinking, if you are making an app that's going to crawl people's files on their disks and everything and take advantage of the knowledge that you have and the things you care about, why not make an app that scans your files and keeps hashes in a database and periodically can rescan to detect bit rot?

So this is probably not a good time to suggest this, but I was thinking, if you are making an app that's going to crawl people's files on their disks and everything and take advantage of the knowledge that you have and the things you care about, why not make an app that scans your files and keeps hashes in a database and periodically can rescan to detect bit rot?