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I'm guessing this all kind of happened in concert with each other.

These were all related and...

If Ternus was involved in the selection of Stephen LeMay, and by the way, which I guess we'll jump the gun slightly.

Sorry, Casey.

Sebastian DeWitt has just announced that he joined the team at Apple.

He was the lead designer for Halide.

And he's been around the scene forever.

He's a very, very good UI designer.

So it looks like the tide has shifted substantially with the design leadership at Apple on the software side.

And it looks like Ternus was probably involved in some level with that.

So that's all very promising to me.

I think this is really good signs of things to come.

I think it's, you know, standard leadership is like the CEO and the top execs are not going to be specialists in all areas.

And so you have to be able to identify and hire good people at every level below you.

Like set things up in place that like you hire good execs and they hire good VPs and they hire good men.

You know, you hire good people because you're outsourcing that decision making to them and you can't do everything.

well right but then but then also you know part of part of the process is like every part of that stack as you go up the chain you need to be able to trust the people who are experts that's why you hired them so like you know like the ceo needs to be able to trust some of the decision making to the level below them and then they need to trust some of the decision making the level below them until you get to the actual experts that know what they're talking about um

But then the people above, they're responsible for more of an editorial role.

So Steve Jobs didn't know how to grind the corners down on a computer case to make it round, but he knew somebody at some point brought him the idea of a rounded computer case, and he's like, yes, that's great.

We're going to do that, and we're going to do it with my ideals and qualities and whatever.