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Accidental Tech Podcast

609: You're the Oreo Cookie

Thu, 17 Oct 2024

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🗣️ New ATP Member’s special: ATP Tier List: Storage Media 🗣️ Follow-up: Marco updates AutoSleep iPhone leather backs Suti PhoneBack Nomad Magnetic Leather Back HDR photos from big cameras Apple laptops can run without a battery connected XKCD: Ravioli-Shaped Objects You can soon get Apple TV+ on Prime Video Soccer corner “Drive to Survive” knockoff is coming (via Devon Dundee) On Messi/MLS popularity Shipping Forecast (via Antony Johnson) Enabling/disabling audio modes on AirPods 4 w/ ANC (via Scott Zero) John’s AirPods update GPX exports for geotagging photos (via Ryan Mikulovsky) Pedometer++ More thoughts on global keyboard shortcuts in Sequoia (via Michael Berk) NSEvent.addGlobalMonitorForEvents Passkey benefits Import/export is forthcoming Press release 1Password blog post Apple says “🤨” to OpenAI claims about reasoning Research paper Thread from Mehrdad Farajtabar More from Gary Marcus How LLMs might store facts Google breakup is a possibility Google’s response New iPad Mini Submerged Making of Submerged Vergence-accommodation conflict Ask ATP: How do you get started editing photos? (via Maxel Amador) What’s the point in performance cores if they’re not used? (via Scott Schuchart) Amdahl’s Law Members-only ATP Overtime: What is the right product mix for iPhone Max Tech’s iPhone 17 naming wishcasting Sponsored by: Squarespace: Save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ATP. Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off your next gift. Become a member for ATP Overtime, ad-free episodes, member specials, and our early-release, unedited “bootleg” feed!

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0.249 - 27.564 John Siracusa

it really is a miracle that we did not kill each other during the recording of the last member special and that we are here recording a new episode of our normal podcast i think this is the closest we've ever come to killing each other can you think of a different time i don't know why you thought it was so uh so contentious i thought it was very calm and uh reasonable right up until the very end but still you gotta count the whole you gotta count the whole rest of the episode which was very long where everything went fine

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30.058 - 50.226 Marco Arment

I'm not sure I agree entirely. I think this is kind of one of those things where you meet somebody else's family. When someone from a family that doesn't argue with each other all the time meets someone from a family that does, it can be quite shocking. And I still think, despite the fact that you two have known me for over a decade now, you don't quite understand how...

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50.886 - 60.892 Marco Arment

i operate normally and every time there's any contentious words you're like oh no the world is ending and i'm like this is just another day it really depends on how you were raised

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63.519 - 69.964 Casey Liss

I'm sure I have been more upset with you, John, probably with regard to something car related and you're ridiculous.

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69.984 - 81.452 Marco Arment

Probably on every other past. No, it was never special. Maybe. I think this one reached new levels for sure. Really? I really feel like the iPod one. I mean, Marco definitely seemed more aggrieved in the iPod one.

81.872 - 103.362 Marco Arment

because i think we are farther apart on those i don't want to spoil anything about it but i think we're actually pretty close together on this one but you you two just were united in disagreement about one level in the tier list single level i i really honestly think that we need to change the rules of the tier list as a result of this episode that's how that's how bad the the voting process was i

103.482 - 119.405 Marco Arment

think i think it worked out remember the connectors episode where we like couldn't get anything up to the top right i think the connectors was more problematic but like you know we do what we do we got to work within the system i feel like i still feel like we did a good job in the end in the end justice was done

120.606 - 141.338 Casey Liss

I don't know if I'd go that far. It was funny though. So after we recorded, it was either yesterday afternoon or perhaps this morning, I was thinking about how maybe we should change the rules. And very briefly, the rules for the tier lists are all three of us have to reach an agreement if something is going to be S tier. And remember, it's S is the best, then A, B, C, D, F.

141.938 - 153.783 Casey Liss

And for something to go from A to S, the rule has been we absolutely, all three of us, must agree. And this has caused some amount of problems in the past. I think I do mostly concur.

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