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Marco Arment

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6218 total appearances

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Accidental Tech Podcast
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Accidental Tech Podcast
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Accidental Tech Podcast
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Accidental Tech Podcast
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I think the article does a really good job of explaining why having icons next to every single menu item as a best practice or as a requirement, why that falls apart.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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It's one of those things that

Accidental Tech Podcast
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I think in interface design, I'm sure lots of designers over time have thought, oh, that sounds like a good idea.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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Let's try it.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And then normally the feedback process would be you try it and you realize, oh, there's a lot of cases in which this doesn't work or this is making things worse or it's causing, you know,

Accidental Tech Podcast
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confusion or you have to really pick some symbols that don't really work because certain menu commands just don't really work well as little icons next to them or like there's there's no obvious icon choice and then maybe you might have you know different programmers at different times on different teams choosing different icons for the same or similar actions over time

Accidental Tech Podcast
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Or maybe you might have a whole bunch of menu items in a row that all kind of should maybe be the same icon or a similar one.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And then you're like, what do you do that?

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And in a normal process, you know, that those would be tried or these failures would be done internally.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And then the review would happen and they would be like, hmm, this actually is not working.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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We're not going to we're going to change this this idea or we're going to cancel this idea.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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That last part didn't happen at Apple.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And all of those mistakes, they just made them all and shipped it as Tahoe.