Marco Arment

And lightweight was a plus.

And I wanted offline map support.

Garmin is pretty stingy with which of their models get offline maps.

And so the one I got was the Venue 4, which that was the wrong choice for me.

I think if I was going to buy a Garmin today, I would probably get the Forerunner.

There we go.

So the Phoenix 8 is their flagship kind of everything watch.

I would probably look at that, but it's pretty chunky for my taste.

The forerunner line of Garmin looks like maybe a better fit for me, but you have to get the giant one, the 970, to get the offline map support for reasons I don't understand.

I think it's just like market segmentation.

And also keep in mind that model is as much as an Apple Watch Ultra.

It's like 750 and up.

So, again, Suunto has a pretty big price advantage here for, you know, generally similar utility to what I'm looking at here.

But Garmin also, you know, Garmin has some watches that have cellular.

They have better, like, music capabilities in many of their models.

They have – their high-end ones even have satellite connectivity, which the Apple Watch Ultra 3 does.

Suunto doesn't have anything like that.

And Garmin has, like, different –

screen technologies they actually offer a micro led screen for like sixteen hundred dollars but you can if you want you can buy a garmin phoenix 8 like super edition that has a real micro led screen it's super bright remember when apple was gonna make those for its apple watch like they invested in this they were they were gonna build their own micro led screens for the apple watch and they after a couple years they said i'd never mind

Yeah, right.