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Podcast Appearances
They tore through the Mac and they messed a bunch of stuff up, a lot of times needlessly, to create something that, you know, by goals and by people that don't really seem to get the platform, certainly don't seem to respect the platform and seem to not have taken a lot of care doing it.
All of these icons, as far as I can tell, I think all the ones I saw, they're all part of Apple's SF Symbols library.
This is a library of standard platform icons that Apple provides developers, and they use all over their own apps as well.
I use them heavily in Overcast, like the whole playlist icon picker, those are all SF Symbols.
And it's a great icon library, but I think...
You know, one of the problems that I occasionally have with SF symbols, of course, everyone using it would have this problem, is sometimes you can't quite find exactly what you want.
So you kind of settle for one that's already there because making your own entire symbol from scratch, that takes more work.
And if you can find one that's kind of close, sometimes you're like, you know what, that'll work.
I'll just use that.
Well, it seems like the task of putting icons on every single menu item in macOS, it seemed that they didn't add any SF symbols as part of this process.
They were probably working in a hurry because they had a lot of work to go through every single Apple menu item.
Well, right.
But anyway, it looks like part of the mediocre execution here is that they seem to, of course, like much of this redesign, seem to be doing it in a bit of a rush.
And they just picked whatever icon they could find in SF Symbols that was close enough.
And that's how you get things like this.
Right, exactly.
So you have, again, just kind of like a mediocre execution.
And the whole idea of SF symbols is unification.
We're going to unify the way and standardize the way everything looks and works.
And in some cases, in some contexts, that's a good idea.