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Marco Arment

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Accidental Tech Podcast
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They tore through the Mac and they messed a bunch of stuff up, a lot of times needlessly, to create something that, you know, by goals and by people that don't really seem to get the platform, certainly don't seem to respect the platform and seem to not have taken a lot of care doing it.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

All of these icons, as far as I can tell, I think all the ones I saw, they're all part of Apple's SF Symbols library.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

This is a library of standard platform icons that Apple provides developers, and they use all over their own apps as well.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

I use them heavily in Overcast, like the whole playlist icon picker, those are all SF Symbols.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

And it's a great icon library, but I think...

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

You know, one of the problems that I occasionally have with SF symbols, of course, everyone using it would have this problem, is sometimes you can't quite find exactly what you want.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

So you kind of settle for one that's already there because making your own entire symbol from scratch, that takes more work.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

And if you can find one that's kind of close, sometimes you're like, you know what, that'll work.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

I'll just use that.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

Well, it seems like the task of putting icons on every single menu item in macOS, it seemed that they didn't add any SF symbols as part of this process.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

They were probably working in a hurry because they had a lot of work to go through every single Apple menu item.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

Well, right.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

But anyway, it looks like part of the mediocre execution here is that they seem to, of course, like much of this redesign, seem to be doing it in a bit of a rush.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

And they just picked whatever icon they could find in SF Symbols that was close enough.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

And that's how you get things like this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

Right, exactly.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

So you have, again, just kind of like a mediocre execution.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

And the whole idea of SF symbols is unification.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

We're going to unify the way and standardize the way everything looks and works.

Accidental Tech Podcast
675: Open, Retrieve, Expand, Load

And in some cases, in some contexts, that's a good idea.