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Marco Arment

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
6218 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Accidental Tech Podcast
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But when you start applying these blanket philosophies without looking at the results, without looking at how the real world and real needs might conflict with that or might have non-ideal outcomes, you get mediocrity.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And that's just everything about Tahoe's liquid glass redesign is like...

Accidental Tech Podcast
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There are certain contexts in which some of these things might work well, but in practice, the way it was applied and maybe the way it will always need to be applied with Mac OS, it just doesn't have good, actual, practical outcomes.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And that's the kind of thing that a good design team and a good design process and a good feedback process would try a bunch of stuff before it ships, of course.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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But there wasn't a filter to get it out before it got here.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And I think this goes to, like, you know, Gruber's talked a lot about this, how Alan Dye leaving Apple was not Apple's choice.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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You know, we are all celebrating it.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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But Alan Dye left for Meta.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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By all accounts, on his own accord, an Apple was caught by surprise and presumably as a result, maybe didn't want him to leave or certainly wasn't certainly was not asking him to leave, which means that all the other Apple senior leadership fully supported this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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Craig Federighi fully supported this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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Tim Cook fully supported this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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I suspect that, you know, because you think, like, which of the top execs probably had to be supportive of Alan Dye and this direction for this to ship?

Accidental Tech Podcast
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And I'm thinking, at minimum...

Accidental Tech Podcast
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Tim Cook, Jeff Williams, Craig Federighi, and Jaws.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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I think they all, because that's marketing, I think they all would have had to at least be supportive of this.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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So as we think about where this is going to go in the future, yeah, we have a new design leader, Stephen, what's his last name?

Accidental Tech Podcast
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Something like that.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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So that's great.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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We have a new design leader.

Accidental Tech Podcast
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By everything we've heard, it sounds like Stephen LeMay is a great person for the principles that we care about.