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new york kind of getting what it wants from the supreme court you know especially versus maine right or you know look at like the statue of liberty debates with new jersey like you know there's there's been a lot over time of like new york kind of just taking what it wants and problem solved we will legally declare this not we will legally uh declare this not to be reality done and done fair enough i think it's the same thing with the pizza as a vegetable that solves a

So it seems like mainland is used in lots of official government documents to refer to Long Island.

Well, it does seem – so this usage reinforces the overwhelming opinion that we got from feedback and that most dictionaries and things seem to define, which is that mainland is a relative term.

It depends on which dictionary.

It seems as though mainland refers to basically the larger body of land compared to where you are on a small body of land.

Yes, there's a few things like that.

And we did hear from a few people in Hawaii and New Zealand about how the term is used there.

And yeah, spoiler alert, Hawaii uses mainland to refer to the continental U.S.

New Zealand is delightful, and I forget what they said.

Well, in conclusion, John, you are still wrong.

However, I will offer one more additional side note to the listeners.

If you are trying to make an argument to us, sending us the output of an LLM

Yeah, I think for me, it's somewhere between Google searches and somebody telling us about their dream.

The thing is, you'll never find somebody on this podcast who likes chatbot LLM results more than me.

I use them all the time.

But that's not a source.

It isn't an argument winner.

It's a summary and sometimes fever dream of facts that may or may not be real and may or may not be helpful.

That's something that you keep to yourself and you use for your own personal uses.

But the output of an LLM is not information to win an argument.