Marco Arment

It's worth four minutes of your time to watch.

We'll put a link in the show notes.

And it shows all the different colors really well and the way they edited it with the VFX and stuff.

I thought it was really cool, so you should check it out.

I think this is a really solid computer for people who don't care about computers.

And I think that comes across very dismissive, and I don't mean it that way at all.

For us, for the three of us, and for probably anyone listening to the show, we care a lot about computers.

We want nice computers.

We want fast computers.

And this is not those things, and that's okay.

And I think, like you had said, John, most of the trade-offs I made, I think, make a lot of sense.

It would bum me out to have this computer as a primary computer, but I tell you what, as a downstairs computer, which is currently an M2 iPad Pro for me, this would fit the bill pretty nicely.

And if you price out a modern iPad Pro with keyboard, because for me, I would want that...

it's like two or three times the price well i guess you wouldn't have to have you could have one of these in each room right i mean you wouldn't have to have an ipad pro to be fair but to have an ipad with a nice keyboard with the cantilevered keyboard the keyboard alone is like 400 bucks somebody said this on on mass dot yeah 350 i think something like that it's ridiculous it's like yeah an ipad keyboard is 350 bucks and this whole ass computer is 600 bucks i mean mike

You put together the $600 family of Apple devices.

The iPhone 17E is $600.

The iPad Air with M4 is $600.

And the MacBook Neo is $600.

Well, get outside your like normal audience would be how I would take it.

I just got a notification that my Mac Mini's offline in the garage.