Marco Arment

Like when they transitioned the Mac to Apple silicon, that whole M1 generation, you would think if you would have said, you know, five years earlier, they're going to do this. Would you buy the very first one? Most people would say no. That sounds like a terrible idea. Why would I buy the very first version of them doing this massive change? It's going to have problems. It's going to be unreliable.

Like when they transitioned the Mac to Apple silicon, that whole M1 generation, you would think if you would have said, you know, five years earlier, they're going to do this. Would you buy the very first one? Most people would say no. That sounds like a terrible idea. Why would I buy the very first version of them doing this massive change? It's going to have problems. It's going to be unreliable.

It's going to be buggy. Well, what happened? They switched the entire Mac over to their own chips, and I was there, and I had the very first one, and it was solid. There were... I don't think there were any major problems. There were certainly fewer problems than the outbound mature Intel ones. So they knocked that one out of the park.

It's going to be buggy. Well, what happened? They switched the entire Mac over to their own chips, and I was there, and I had the very first one, and it was solid. There were... I don't think there were any major problems. There were certainly fewer problems than the outbound mature Intel ones. So they knocked that one out of the park.

So I think their current standards and their recent performance in areas like this, in terms of the Apple Silicon transition... shows a pretty good track record.

So I think their current standards and their recent performance in areas like this, in terms of the Apple Silicon transition... shows a pretty good track record.

Well, I think there's – you can frame it like two different ways. Like are they – is it that they can't do this well enough yet or that they haven't done this well enough yet? Look, Apple knows the iPhone is the show. They know. And you can look at like – How many iPhones have there been? It's a pretty high number, especially when you include all the non-flagship models.

Well, I think there's – you can frame it like two different ways. Like are they – is it that they can't do this well enough yet or that they haven't done this well enough yet? Look, Apple knows the iPhone is the show. They know. And you can look at like – How many iPhones have there been? It's a pretty high number, especially when you include all the non-flagship models.

When you include all the different sub-models and two different sizes of everything a lot of times, there have been a lot of iPhones. How many of them have had significant hardware flaws? It's a very short list, and they haven't been that significant. They know how to make really reliable iPhones.

When you include all the different sub-models and two different sizes of everything a lot of times, there have been a lot of iPhones. How many of them have had significant hardware flaws? It's a very short list, and they haven't been that significant. They know how to make really reliable iPhones.

They have shown an incredible, like when you consider how complicated iPhones are, the scale that they are produced, it's remarkable how few hardware problems iPhones have had.

They have shown an incredible, like when you consider how complicated iPhones are, the scale that they are produced, it's remarkable how few hardware problems iPhones have had.

But even that, like I still use that phone for a year and it was still mostly fine. Like it wasn't, that wasn't that big of like, you know, they have had little minor things. Yeah, the Intel submodem in the iPhone 7 wasn't that good. Yeah, they had like, you know, the slightly more bendable than usual iPhone 6 series.

But even that, like I still use that phone for a year and it was still mostly fine. Like it wasn't, that wasn't that big of like, you know, they have had little minor things. Yeah, the Intel submodem in the iPhone 7 wasn't that good. Yeah, they had like, you know, the slightly more bendable than usual iPhone 6 series.

There were a couple, you know, the Antenna Gate forever ago, which was also like a minor issue.

There were a couple, you know, the Antenna Gate forever ago, which was also like a minor issue.

Well, think about, like, okay, first of all, there will probably be certain upsides in just things like power efficiency, small size, you know, so we will see probably some minor advances there. Wi-Fi chips and cell modems are big. They take up space on the board.

Well, think about, like, okay, first of all, there will probably be certain upsides in just things like power efficiency, small size, you know, so we will see probably some minor advances there. Wi-Fi chips and cell modems are big. They take up space on the board.

If they can make their own and or integrate it into the package of the SoC, which I think is more likely, or at least integrate parts of it into that and maybe... Or they can use their TSMC deal to fab it at the good...

If they can make their own and or integrate it into the package of the SoC, which I think is more likely, or at least integrate parts of it into that and maybe... Or they can use their TSMC deal to fab it at the good...