Marcy Guevara

And yeah, I mean, I think it's like Jillian's a human.

I'm a human.

And we made a connection that day.

That conversation was electric.

And there is something that both of us have to offer one another.

And I mean, hopefully we'll continue to have that talk here with you.

no no trauma no i've released it and therefore then i will be thin here's the thing john i want to be really real about this and and i am so like committed and have built this brand and like the plus size and body acceptance and fat acceptance world but it's like there's nothing more and i'll just speak for myself i won't speak for all fat people as a monolith because they aren't

But there's nothing that I would want more than to sit across from someone like Jillian, the world's basically foremost trainer, and be like, yeah, let's go.

Put me on your plan.

Fix me.

Let's go.

Do I think that people that have trauma are... Like, what about all the thin people with trauma?

Like, why did I get that gene?

You know, like, what is... That's where it's, like, hard for me because...

One, I want to acknowledge not only how beautiful and eloquent and interesting Jillian is to listen to, but it's like if it's... No, you are.

I mean, obviously it's like you're not a therapist.

You're not a therapist.

You're not a politician.

And yet here you are being like given these platforms to speak at a level of expertise that it's like you're not dumb.

I know that you've put a lot of work and research into all of these things.