Marcy Guevara

as a TV producer, I know also happened to you, is that you were vilified.

You were put as this... Stop, stop.

No, you don't need to judge.

I'm just saying I can buy into what you're saying.

It's just you are also the face of what so many fat people are like, oh my God, no, Satan, it's the biggest... Fair, fair.

Yes.

Yes.

And I think it as I've grown up literally always in this body, I've literally never been thin.

And even when I look at photos now and I'm like, oh, if I looked that way, you would think I had cancer.

Like I was so thin and I thought I was so fat.

So I do think it's a part of my identity.

And I think that that is part of what's so challenging.

I think even to like get across in these conversations, it's like.

It may not have to be a part of... Actually, even if I lost weight, I think it would always be a part of my identity somehow because even the way that I think it affects people psychologically after they're fat, like when you hear people who are like, I lost 200 pounds and people treat me super differently and...

You know, I'm a confident person, so that's like the one thing that's like, OK, if I lost weight, I'd probably still be vivacious and confident and all of these things.

But we are othered in the world constantly, constantly.

So it's very hard to step out of that identity when it is a it is mirrored constantly to me that it is wrong to be fat, that I am told by every billboard, every ad on Instagram,

You know, everything in society, if you're looking at the news at all, and obviously there's a lot going on, but in body politics, it's like it is a constant message that one should shrink and be thinner and smaller.

So it is almost constantly a reminder that I'm that.

And I have used it to my benefit.