Marek Olszewski

Maybe it's just...

You know, the excitement of having, you know, working on an L1, right?

I think for a lot of people, you know, there's still this idea that, you know, it's easier to compete against, you know, Ethereum if you're an L1, not an L2.

But I think that's ultimately maybe just ego.

And as Ethereum improves its finality, as the benefits of all of those network effects that are being created just become so obvious to everyone, I think Ethereum will just pull everyone in.

I have just a lot of conviction that Ethereum will become the settlement layer of the whole internet.

not just Web3.

And it'll take a while, but network effects are powerful and it's going to happen.

Yeah.

But, you know, on our end, for example, you know, we've been grappling with this finality question for a while.

And so now we're actually working with Espresso to add two-second finality back, you know, using the Espresso.

And so that's using Espresso economic guarantees, which obviously are nothing compared to Ethereum.

You can touch Ethereum on that front.

But for smaller transactions, you can have these guarantees.

And then if you really are moving a billion dollars, you can wait for Ethereum finality on Celo as well.

Yeah, so for us, this is all about onboarding everyone into crypto.

You know, we're not going to stop until Global Venmo is here and it's on Celo.

And to do that, we need to onboard everyone in the world.

We can't just onboard, you know, crypto savvy or degens or, you know, people who, you know, are excited about, you know, what crypto is today.

And the only way we'll be able to onboard them is through incentives, right?