Maria Bartiromo

than not just wear a bandana or a piece of fabric. And you have to remember supply. Could we have communicated that better? Absolutely. Really. I mean, that's where you draw lessons of how we could have said what we said and when. But that's where we need to learn. But we never issued mandates. We never said lockdown.

What we were trying to do was to apply a layered approach, a tiered approach, so that businesses could keep open. And countries went into lockdown and different levels of lockdown because they had to, because they were overwhelmed and the healthcare system was absolutely overwhelmed. And you remember that.

What we were trying to do was to apply a layered approach, a tiered approach, so that businesses could keep open. And countries went into lockdown and different levels of lockdown because they had to, because they were overwhelmed and the healthcare system was absolutely overwhelmed. And you remember that.

What we were trying to do was to apply a layered approach, a tiered approach, so that businesses could keep open. And countries went into lockdown and different levels of lockdown because they had to, because they were overwhelmed and the healthcare system was absolutely overwhelmed. And you remember that.

And the things that strike me the most, the things that keep me up at night, that give me chills every time are the refrigerated trucks, are the fire pyres in India. And did you ever see this image from Brazil where there were people dying in ICU and there was a glove filled with warm water And they put the glove in the hand of an individual dying in ICU so that they didn't die alone.

And the things that strike me the most, the things that keep me up at night, that give me chills every time are the refrigerated trucks, are the fire pyres in India. And did you ever see this image from Brazil where there were people dying in ICU and there was a glove filled with warm water And they put the glove in the hand of an individual dying in ICU so that they didn't die alone.

And the things that strike me the most, the things that keep me up at night, that give me chills every time are the refrigerated trucks, are the fire pyres in India. And did you ever see this image from Brazil where there were people dying in ICU and there was a glove filled with warm water And they put the glove in the hand of an individual dying in ICU so that they didn't die alone.

You know, that's the level that we were dealing with. And so everything that propels us, everything that's being negotiated in this pandemic accord is about not just a handshake to say, oh, gee, we should do better. We have to do better. And if I wasn't on a podcast, I'd probably use some colorful language, but we have to do better. It didn't have to be this bad.

You know, that's the level that we were dealing with. And so everything that propels us, everything that's being negotiated in this pandemic accord is about not just a handshake to say, oh, gee, we should do better. We have to do better. And if I wasn't on a podcast, I'd probably use some colorful language, but we have to do better. It didn't have to be this bad.

You know, that's the level that we were dealing with. And so everything that propels us, everything that's being negotiated in this pandemic accord is about not just a handshake to say, oh, gee, we should do better. We have to do better. And if I wasn't on a podcast, I'd probably use some colorful language, but we have to do better. It didn't have to be this bad.

And the next one doesn't have to be as bad as COVID.

And the next one doesn't have to be as bad as COVID.

And the next one doesn't have to be as bad as COVID.

Yeah. We still don't know the origins of COVID-19 five plus years on. For us, it's not just a scientific endeavor. It's a moral and an ethical imperative that we find out because it's not just enough to know if it was zoonotic or lab. We need to know the details surrounding all of that because without knowing that detail, we're not going to be able to prevent it the next time.

Yeah. We still don't know the origins of COVID-19 five plus years on. For us, it's not just a scientific endeavor. It's a moral and an ethical imperative that we find out because it's not just enough to know if it was zoonotic or lab. We need to know the details surrounding all of that because without knowing that detail, we're not going to be able to prevent it the next time.

Yeah. We still don't know the origins of COVID-19 five plus years on. For us, it's not just a scientific endeavor. It's a moral and an ethical imperative that we find out because it's not just enough to know if it was zoonotic or lab. We need to know the details surrounding all of that because without knowing that detail, we're not going to be able to prevent it the next time.

I think for us, there's a couple of elements to this. One is the early days of COVID and how people saw us. And if we were, you know, I hear a lot, you're in China's pocket, but for a while we were in America's pocket. And so you kind of can't win on that side of things. We did not have the information that we needed early on from China. That's a fact. We've been very vocal about it.

I think for us, there's a couple of elements to this. One is the early days of COVID and how people saw us. And if we were, you know, I hear a lot, you're in China's pocket, but for a while we were in America's pocket. And so you kind of can't win on that side of things. We did not have the information that we needed early on from China. That's a fact. We've been very vocal about it.

I think for us, there's a couple of elements to this. One is the early days of COVID and how people saw us. And if we were, you know, I hear a lot, you're in China's pocket, but for a while we were in America's pocket. And so you kind of can't win on that side of things. We did not have the information that we needed early on from China. That's a fact. We've been very vocal about it.

And I think I hear some people use that when they want to and others just say, we just believed everything that they said. But as an organization, as scientists, you know, you already think there's human to human transmission. You already know that it's probably bigger than what's actually being reported. And so we act. We acted already as if that were happening.