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Maria Bartiromo

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The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

how loud that actual alarm is and how serious people take that. I mean, people arguably did not wake up to COVID until Lombardi was hit because it was some unknown pathogen in some faraway country. When Lombardi was hit, it was significant. When New York was hit, really people started to wake up and think, oh my gosh, this is here. And the hubris that we had of like, we could handle this.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

how loud that actual alarm is and how serious people take that. I mean, people arguably did not wake up to COVID until Lombardi was hit because it was some unknown pathogen in some faraway country. When Lombardi was hit, it was significant. When New York was hit, really people started to wake up and think, oh my gosh, this is here. And the hubris that we had of like, we could handle this.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

how loud that actual alarm is and how serious people take that. I mean, people arguably did not wake up to COVID until Lombardi was hit because it was some unknown pathogen in some faraway country. When Lombardi was hit, it was significant. When New York was hit, really people started to wake up and think, oh my gosh, this is here. And the hubris that we had of like, we could handle this.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

I talked to health workers all over and you know this, you've treated patients, right? That anticipation of waiting for patients to arrive is So acting fast is one huge one. A second one is around using science as a foundation, but it's not the only important element, right? Data and knowledge and evidence-based guidance is very different than policies that are set.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

I talked to health workers all over and you know this, you've treated patients, right? That anticipation of waiting for patients to arrive is So acting fast is one huge one. A second one is around using science as a foundation, but it's not the only important element, right? Data and knowledge and evidence-based guidance is very different than policies that are set.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

I talked to health workers all over and you know this, you've treated patients, right? That anticipation of waiting for patients to arrive is So acting fast is one huge one. A second one is around using science as a foundation, but it's not the only important element, right? Data and knowledge and evidence-based guidance is very different than policies that are set.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And policies take into consideration so many other things. Let alone availability of the material that you actually need to have that intervention, but the acceptability of people, the trust of communities. Communities, you know, outbreaks begin and end in communities, but communities can actually prevent those outbreaks from happening in the first place. When are we going to learn?

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And policies take into consideration so many other things. Let alone availability of the material that you actually need to have that intervention, but the acceptability of people, the trust of communities. Communities, you know, outbreaks begin and end in communities, but communities can actually prevent those outbreaks from happening in the first place. When are we going to learn?

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And policies take into consideration so many other things. Let alone availability of the material that you actually need to have that intervention, but the acceptability of people, the trust of communities. Communities, you know, outbreaks begin and end in communities, but communities can actually prevent those outbreaks from happening in the first place. When are we going to learn?

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And I've learned a ton on communication. I mean, you know, what we say, how we say it. I've not trained in risk communication. I'm not trained in communication. But my goal always to say what we know, what we don't know, what we're doing to find out, and what it means for you.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And I've learned a ton on communication. I mean, you know, what we say, how we say it. I've not trained in risk communication. I'm not trained in communication. But my goal always to say what we know, what we don't know, what we're doing to find out, and what it means for you.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And I've learned a ton on communication. I mean, you know, what we say, how we say it. I've not trained in risk communication. I'm not trained in communication. But my goal always to say what we know, what we don't know, what we're doing to find out, and what it means for you.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

But I think trying to correct, coming out there all the time, and even when we make mistakes, and we've made mistakes, and I've made mistakes, to correct that, correct the record and say science is a process. Science evolves. And therefore, your evidence and your advice needs to evolve. But, you know, we never issued mandates. Never, never.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

But I think trying to correct, coming out there all the time, and even when we make mistakes, and we've made mistakes, and I've made mistakes, to correct that, correct the record and say science is a process. Science evolves. And therefore, your evidence and your advice needs to evolve. But, you know, we never issued mandates. Never, never.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

But I think trying to correct, coming out there all the time, and even when we make mistakes, and we've made mistakes, and I've made mistakes, to correct that, correct the record and say science is a process. Science evolves. And therefore, your evidence and your advice needs to evolve. But, you know, we never issued mandates. Never, never.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And one of the things we hear all the time as a criticism is we didn't issue masks, advice on masks fast enough. But in fact, in January, we advised anyone who was sick to be wearing a mask, anyone who was caring for an individual who was sick to wear a mask. Obviously, that changed over time. We were the first organization to issue guidance on how to make a three-layer mask.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And one of the things we hear all the time as a criticism is we didn't issue masks, advice on masks fast enough. But in fact, in January, we advised anyone who was sick to be wearing a mask, anyone who was caring for an individual who was sick to wear a mask. Obviously, that changed over time. We were the first organization to issue guidance on how to make a three-layer mask.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And one of the things we hear all the time as a criticism is we didn't issue masks, advice on masks fast enough. But in fact, in January, we advised anyone who was sick to be wearing a mask, anyone who was caring for an individual who was sick to wear a mask. Obviously, that changed over time. We were the first organization to issue guidance on how to make a three-layer mask.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

than not just wear a bandana or a piece of fabric. And you have to remember supply. Could we have communicated that better? Absolutely. Really. I mean, that's where you draw lessons of how we could have said what we said and when. But that's where we need to learn. But we never issued mandates. We never said lockdown.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

than not just wear a bandana or a piece of fabric. And you have to remember supply. Could we have communicated that better? Absolutely. Really. I mean, that's where you draw lessons of how we could have said what we said and when. But that's where we need to learn. But we never issued mandates. We never said lockdown.