Maria Bartiromo

And I've learned a ton on communication. I mean, you know, what we say, how we say it. I've not trained in risk communication. I'm not trained in communication. But my goal always to say what we know, what we don't know, what we're doing to find out, and what it means for you.

And I've learned a ton on communication. I mean, you know, what we say, how we say it. I've not trained in risk communication. I'm not trained in communication. But my goal always to say what we know, what we don't know, what we're doing to find out, and what it means for you.

And I've learned a ton on communication. I mean, you know, what we say, how we say it. I've not trained in risk communication. I'm not trained in communication. But my goal always to say what we know, what we don't know, what we're doing to find out, and what it means for you.

But I think trying to correct, coming out there all the time, and even when we make mistakes, and we've made mistakes, and I've made mistakes, to correct that, correct the record and say science is a process. Science evolves. And therefore, your evidence and your advice needs to evolve. But, you know, we never issued mandates. Never, never.

But I think trying to correct, coming out there all the time, and even when we make mistakes, and we've made mistakes, and I've made mistakes, to correct that, correct the record and say science is a process. Science evolves. And therefore, your evidence and your advice needs to evolve. But, you know, we never issued mandates. Never, never.

But I think trying to correct, coming out there all the time, and even when we make mistakes, and we've made mistakes, and I've made mistakes, to correct that, correct the record and say science is a process. Science evolves. And therefore, your evidence and your advice needs to evolve. But, you know, we never issued mandates. Never, never.

And one of the things we hear all the time as a criticism is we didn't issue masks, advice on masks fast enough. But in fact, in January, we advised anyone who was sick to be wearing a mask, anyone who was caring for an individual who was sick to wear a mask. Obviously, that changed over time. We were the first organization to issue guidance on how to make a three-layer mask.

And one of the things we hear all the time as a criticism is we didn't issue masks, advice on masks fast enough. But in fact, in January, we advised anyone who was sick to be wearing a mask, anyone who was caring for an individual who was sick to wear a mask. Obviously, that changed over time. We were the first organization to issue guidance on how to make a three-layer mask.

And one of the things we hear all the time as a criticism is we didn't issue masks, advice on masks fast enough. But in fact, in January, we advised anyone who was sick to be wearing a mask, anyone who was caring for an individual who was sick to wear a mask. Obviously, that changed over time. We were the first organization to issue guidance on how to make a three-layer mask.

than not just wear a bandana or a piece of fabric. And you have to remember supply. Could we have communicated that better? Absolutely. Really. I mean, that's where you draw lessons of how we could have said what we said and when. But that's where we need to learn. But we never issued mandates. We never said lockdown.

than not just wear a bandana or a piece of fabric. And you have to remember supply. Could we have communicated that better? Absolutely. Really. I mean, that's where you draw lessons of how we could have said what we said and when. But that's where we need to learn. But we never issued mandates. We never said lockdown.

than not just wear a bandana or a piece of fabric. And you have to remember supply. Could we have communicated that better? Absolutely. Really. I mean, that's where you draw lessons of how we could have said what we said and when. But that's where we need to learn. But we never issued mandates. We never said lockdown.

What we were trying to do was to apply a layered approach, a tiered approach, so that businesses could keep open. And countries went into lockdown and different levels of lockdown because they had to, because they were overwhelmed and the healthcare system was absolutely overwhelmed. And you remember that.

What we were trying to do was to apply a layered approach, a tiered approach, so that businesses could keep open. And countries went into lockdown and different levels of lockdown because they had to, because they were overwhelmed and the healthcare system was absolutely overwhelmed. And you remember that.

What we were trying to do was to apply a layered approach, a tiered approach, so that businesses could keep open. And countries went into lockdown and different levels of lockdown because they had to, because they were overwhelmed and the healthcare system was absolutely overwhelmed. And you remember that.

And the things that strike me the most, the things that keep me up at night, that give me chills every time are the refrigerated trucks, are the fire pyres in India. And did you ever see this image from Brazil where there were people dying in ICU and there was a glove filled with warm water And they put the glove in the hand of an individual dying in ICU so that they didn't die alone.

And the things that strike me the most, the things that keep me up at night, that give me chills every time are the refrigerated trucks, are the fire pyres in India. And did you ever see this image from Brazil where there were people dying in ICU and there was a glove filled with warm water And they put the glove in the hand of an individual dying in ICU so that they didn't die alone.

And the things that strike me the most, the things that keep me up at night, that give me chills every time are the refrigerated trucks, are the fire pyres in India. And did you ever see this image from Brazil where there were people dying in ICU and there was a glove filled with warm water And they put the glove in the hand of an individual dying in ICU so that they didn't die alone.

You know, that's the level that we were dealing with. And so everything that propels us, everything that's being negotiated in this pandemic accord is about not just a handshake to say, oh, gee, we should do better. We have to do better. And if I wasn't on a podcast, I'd probably use some colorful language, but we have to do better. It didn't have to be this bad.

You know, that's the level that we were dealing with. And so everything that propels us, everything that's being negotiated in this pandemic accord is about not just a handshake to say, oh, gee, we should do better. We have to do better. And if I wasn't on a podcast, I'd probably use some colorful language, but we have to do better. It didn't have to be this bad.