Maria Bartiromo

You know, that's the level that we were dealing with. And so everything that propels us, everything that's being negotiated in this pandemic accord is about not just a handshake to say, oh, gee, we should do better. We have to do better. And if I wasn't on a podcast, I'd probably use some colorful language, but we have to do better. It didn't have to be this bad.

And the next one doesn't have to be as bad as COVID.

And the next one doesn't have to be as bad as COVID.

And the next one doesn't have to be as bad as COVID.

Yeah. We still don't know the origins of COVID-19 five plus years on. For us, it's not just a scientific endeavor. It's a moral and an ethical imperative that we find out because it's not just enough to know if it was zoonotic or lab. We need to know the details surrounding all of that because without knowing that detail, we're not going to be able to prevent it the next time.

Yeah. We still don't know the origins of COVID-19 five plus years on. For us, it's not just a scientific endeavor. It's a moral and an ethical imperative that we find out because it's not just enough to know if it was zoonotic or lab. We need to know the details surrounding all of that because without knowing that detail, we're not going to be able to prevent it the next time.

Yeah. We still don't know the origins of COVID-19 five plus years on. For us, it's not just a scientific endeavor. It's a moral and an ethical imperative that we find out because it's not just enough to know if it was zoonotic or lab. We need to know the details surrounding all of that because without knowing that detail, we're not going to be able to prevent it the next time.

I think for us, there's a couple of elements to this. One is the early days of COVID and how people saw us. And if we were, you know, I hear a lot, you're in China's pocket, but for a while we were in America's pocket. And so you kind of can't win on that side of things. We did not have the information that we needed early on from China. That's a fact. We've been very vocal about it.

I think for us, there's a couple of elements to this. One is the early days of COVID and how people saw us. And if we were, you know, I hear a lot, you're in China's pocket, but for a while we were in America's pocket. And so you kind of can't win on that side of things. We did not have the information that we needed early on from China. That's a fact. We've been very vocal about it.

I think for us, there's a couple of elements to this. One is the early days of COVID and how people saw us. And if we were, you know, I hear a lot, you're in China's pocket, but for a while we were in America's pocket. And so you kind of can't win on that side of things. We did not have the information that we needed early on from China. That's a fact. We've been very vocal about it.

And I think I hear some people use that when they want to and others just say, we just believed everything that they said. But as an organization, as scientists, you know, you already think there's human to human transmission. You already know that it's probably bigger than what's actually being reported. And so we act. We acted already as if that were happening.

And I think I hear some people use that when they want to and others just say, we just believed everything that they said. But as an organization, as scientists, you know, you already think there's human to human transmission. You already know that it's probably bigger than what's actually being reported. And so we act. We acted already as if that were happening.

And I think I hear some people use that when they want to and others just say, we just believed everything that they said. But as an organization, as scientists, you know, you already think there's human to human transmission. You already know that it's probably bigger than what's actually being reported. And so we act. We acted already as if that were happening.

I think on the origin side of things, this is extremely frustrating for me. I fully, fully believe that much more information is actually out there that has not been shared with us about how this pandemic began. And we had several missions. I was part of a mission that went to China in February 2020.

I think on the origin side of things, this is extremely frustrating for me. I fully, fully believe that much more information is actually out there that has not been shared with us about how this pandemic began. And we had several missions. I was part of a mission that went to China in February 2020.

I think on the origin side of things, this is extremely frustrating for me. I fully, fully believe that much more information is actually out there that has not been shared with us about how this pandemic began. And we had several missions. I was part of a mission that went to China in February 2020.

One of the earliest groups that were in there of actually looking at and in fact, in many parts of the country in China, the cases were coming down. It was it was pretty incredible. Learning was the first time we got information out of the country to say what was happening. It was the first time we knew people could be infectious before they tested positive. I mean, it's it's developed symptoms.

One of the earliest groups that were in there of actually looking at and in fact, in many parts of the country in China, the cases were coming down. It was it was pretty incredible. Learning was the first time we got information out of the country to say what was happening. It was the first time we knew people could be infectious before they tested positive. I mean, it's it's developed symptoms.

One of the earliest groups that were in there of actually looking at and in fact, in many parts of the country in China, the cases were coming down. It was it was pretty incredible. Learning was the first time we got information out of the country to say what was happening. It was the first time we knew people could be infectious before they tested positive. I mean, it's it's developed symptoms.

Excuse me. It's incredible. Right. And the origins is unknown. And right now, we don't know when, where, and how this pandemic began. The totality of available evidence, and the key word here is available, is zoonotic in origin, right? We're looking at the market, the amplification at the market, but we don't have the upstream study. So where did the first cases occur?