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Maria Bartiromo

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538 total appearances

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The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

Excuse me. It's incredible. Right. And the origins is unknown. And right now, we don't know when, where, and how this pandemic began. The totality of available evidence, and the key word here is available, is zoonotic in origin, right? We're looking at the market, the amplification at the market, but we don't have the upstream study. So where did the first cases occur?

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

Excuse me. It's incredible. Right. And the origins is unknown. And right now, we don't know when, where, and how this pandemic began. The totality of available evidence, and the key word here is available, is zoonotic in origin, right? We're looking at the market, the amplification at the market, but we don't have the upstream study. So where did the first cases occur?

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

I don't fully believe they occurred at that market. I believe that these animals were important in terms of potential spillover, but we don't have evidence that it actually happened at the market. It could have happened as part of the trade route. It could have happened at some of the source farms. We have no information on the labs.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

I don't fully believe they occurred at that market. I believe that these animals were important in terms of potential spillover, but we don't have evidence that it actually happened at the market. It could have happened as part of the trade route. It could have happened at some of the source farms. We have no information on the labs.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

I don't fully believe they occurred at that market. I believe that these animals were important in terms of potential spillover, but we don't have evidence that it actually happened at the market. It could have happened as part of the trade route. It could have happened at some of the source farms. We have no information on the labs.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

Yeah, so that's transmission between animals and humans. And when I say zoonotic, the hypothesis is that an animal was infected, some kind of an intermediate host, maybe a raccoon dog or a civet cat or something like that. And people came in contact with those animals. And usually what happens when you have a spillover event, you have what we call almost like a stuttering.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

Yeah, so that's transmission between animals and humans. And when I say zoonotic, the hypothesis is that an animal was infected, some kind of an intermediate host, maybe a raccoon dog or a civet cat or something like that. And people came in contact with those animals. And usually what happens when you have a spillover event, you have what we call almost like a stuttering.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

Yeah, so that's transmission between animals and humans. And when I say zoonotic, the hypothesis is that an animal was infected, some kind of an intermediate host, maybe a raccoon dog or a civet cat or something like that. And people came in contact with those animals. And usually what happens when you have a spillover event, you have what we call almost like a stuttering.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

Some people might get infected. They may not develop severe disease and therefore they don't seek health care. So they might get missed. And the pathogen may not be, it may not have developed enough characteristics to transmit between people easily. And so you have a petering out. But other times when the virus is able to transmit efficiently, that's when you start to have an outbreak.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

Some people might get infected. They may not develop severe disease and therefore they don't seek health care. So they might get missed. And the pathogen may not be, it may not have developed enough characteristics to transmit between people easily. And so you have a petering out. But other times when the virus is able to transmit efficiently, that's when you start to have an outbreak.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

Some people might get infected. They may not develop severe disease and therefore they don't seek health care. So they might get missed. And the pathogen may not be, it may not have developed enough characteristics to transmit between people easily. And so you have a petering out. But other times when the virus is able to transmit efficiently, that's when you start to have an outbreak.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And usually you'll pick up people in a health care system because they develop severe disease. But at that point, there's normally more cases. Now, the other hypothesis is that there was a breach in biosafety, biosecurity leaked from a lab. This is the lab leak hypothesis, not an intentional release, but that either the Wuhan Institute of Virology or the

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And usually you'll pick up people in a health care system because they develop severe disease. But at that point, there's normally more cases. Now, the other hypothesis is that there was a breach in biosafety, biosecurity leaked from a lab. This is the lab leak hypothesis, not an intentional release, but that either the Wuhan Institute of Virology or the

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And usually you'll pick up people in a health care system because they develop severe disease. But at that point, there's normally more cases. Now, the other hypothesis is that there was a breach in biosafety, biosecurity leaked from a lab. This is the lab leak hypothesis, not an intentional release, but that either the Wuhan Institute of Virology or the

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

The CDC lab that was in Wuhan, the China Centers for Disease Control lab in Wuhan was working with similar viruses. The virus infected someone working in that lab, and then the outbreak began. The problem is, is that China has not been forthcoming. They have not collaborated with, they have not communicated with us to the ability that we believe that they could.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

The CDC lab that was in Wuhan, the China Centers for Disease Control lab in Wuhan was working with similar viruses. The virus infected someone working in that lab, and then the outbreak began. The problem is, is that China has not been forthcoming. They have not collaborated with, they have not communicated with us to the ability that we believe that they could.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

The CDC lab that was in Wuhan, the China Centers for Disease Control lab in Wuhan was working with similar viruses. The virus infected someone working in that lab, and then the outbreak began. The problem is, is that China has not been forthcoming. They have not collaborated with, they have not communicated with us to the ability that we believe that they could.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And the frustration that I have at WHO is we cannot force a country to tell us. We cannot force a country to work with us. We couldn't do this with the U.S. We couldn't do this with France. We couldn't do this with South Africa. We have to rely on countries to share this information with us.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And the frustration that I have at WHO is we cannot force a country to tell us. We cannot force a country to work with us. We couldn't do this with the U.S. We couldn't do this with France. We couldn't do this with South Africa. We have to rely on countries to share this information with us.

The MeidasTouch Podcast
Meidas Health, Episode 4: Why Trump’s WHO Exit Puts Us All at Risk (Dr. Van Kerkhove)

And the frustration that I have at WHO is we cannot force a country to tell us. We cannot force a country to work with us. We couldn't do this with the U.S. We couldn't do this with France. We couldn't do this with South Africa. We have to rely on countries to share this information with us.