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Mariana van Zeller

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
4087 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

So you'd call and you'd go to the doctor and say, I have a headache.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

Oh, you should be taking substance.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

It's a great fentanyl to fentanyl.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

It's going to cure your headache.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And then the people at the company hired by INSIS, they had their insurance department.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

would call insurance and say, oh, this person, you need to approve this medication for this person because they have cancer.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

They were lying to insurance because it was only approved.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

Insurance would only pay.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And these were very expensive drugs if it was for cancer patients.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

So they would lie.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And so this whistleblower basically opened up the Pandora's box and told us all about this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And then there was a big investigation into it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

And it was the first and only, I believe, pharmaceutical company owner that ever went to prison.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

But it was the same playbook.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2395 - Mariana van Zeller

So it's like it keeps repeating itself.