Mariana van Zeller

No, they were not.

In fact, the ads at the time from Purdue Pharma was that less than 1% of people would become addicted from this.

Literally, that was the number they gave, less than 1% of addiction rates.

Huh.

To try to wean them off?

Huh.

Wow.

I didn't know that.

Well, I've got something better for you.

It's called Oxycontin.

By the way, only 1% of the people get addicted to it.

And then it was fentanyl, too.

You know, when we investigated fentanyl, it started as a drug for terminal cancer patients.

Mm-hmm.

And we went after this one company called Subsys, where the guy, the head of that company called John Kapoor, was the first, and I believe only until this day, head of a pharmaceutical company to be charged and go to jail.

And we had a whistleblower in our investigation.

This was before he was arrested and found out and charged.

We had a whistleblower telling us that the company, Insys Pharmaceuticals, Subsys was the thing, Insys Pharmaceuticals was the name of the company, that they were doing exactly the same that Purdue Pharma did back in the day, which was, in their case, they were actually bribing doctors.

They were taking these doctors all to, like, travel experiences around the world and…

Paying them to prescribe their medication.