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Mariana van Zeller

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3010 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

They were making millions and millions of dollars out of a couple of storefronts in Florida.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And so he contacted them and they wrote back and said, yeah, I'm interested.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And by the way, say hi to your wife.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

So they knew full well who he was.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And he ended up doing an amazing doc.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

It's called American Pain.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

You should watch it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

But it's about them, the rise and fall of these twin brothers, but also the complicity of the pharmaceutical companies.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And they full well knew exactly what was happening and did nothing about it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And then fentanyl.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And then the exact same thing happened.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

We did another documentary called Death by Fentanyl where we looked at the fentanyl and we investigated this one pharmaceutical company called Insys Therapeutics where they were selling Subsys, which was a fentanyl product.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And they were doing the exact same thing that Purdue had done just, you know, a few years before where they were paying doctors for fees to basically prescribe.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

They were prescribing fentanyl to people with headaches and like shoulder pain.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And we got a whistleblower to tell us exactly how it was happening and how they were, you know, calling because the pills or this product was really, really expensive.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

So insurance companies were paying for it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

So she would call insurance companies and say, oh, and they would ask, but, you know, this is only supposed to be prescribed to cancer patients.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

Does this patient have cancer?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

And they knew how to answer in a way that the person would believe they did, even though they didn't.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2092 - Mariana van Zeller

They were making millions of dollars.