Mariana van Zeller

So this is where I think it would be interesting.

I actually think that there is a positive if it were to happen right now because it sure as hell would bring us all together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, we would.

I mean, we need it now more than ever.

So if they're out there.

It's so sad because it didn't used to be like that, right?

Politics wasn't something that people talked about all day long, all the time.

Yeah, because this is all people talk about, like even us.

Yes, but also like the division and the right and the left and being careful with what you say because what if the other side, this and that.

It's now in every single—

home in every single conversation people have.

And it's just it didn't used to be like that.

It just didn't.

Like government was there.

It existed.

It's supposed to work well.

If it's not, hopefully there are good journalists out there exposing what's not working out well.

But it should not be the discourse all the time about whether you're right wing, you're left wing, whether you're with us or not or against us.