Mariana van Zeller

But later in life, when I went to Syria, I was like 26 or 27 years old.

And when I started doing these sort of stories, yeah, I was around that age.

And I think at that point, I had a little bit of experience.

I was a little bit more mature.

I had conversations with my parents about it.

And I think that I would prepare him and tell him everything that I know and hope that he would make good decisions and have the training that he needs to have.

Although I didn't have any training when I went to those places.

Probably.

I'd be with like binoculars.

Oh, North Korea would be one of them.

I would love to go to North Korea and Iran.

We've had plans to go to Iran.

We've been pitching a story on Iran since season one of Traffic.

So far, it hasn't worked out for us.

Although it possibly would be the best time to go.

This is when we want to be there.

Yeah, it's just it's very dangerous.

And particularly as a journalist.

And yeah, there's all reasons not to go.

I was trying to go there with my Portuguese passport.