Mariana van Zeller

Right.

Fucking crazy.

It's evil.

I remember interviewing a woman.

We did a story about fake pharmaceuticals and why I think it's 20 million Americans that can't afford their pharmaceuticals, so they go to places like Mexico and online to Indian pharmaceutical companies or fake and buy medication that sometimes works but a lot of times is counterfeit and is bad and actually can kill you.

And I remember interviewing the sort of the head of this big lobby, one of the biggest DC lobby groups for pharmaceutical companies and asking her.

And she was very happy to be on the show because we were talking about counterfeit.

Right.

And she thought she was going to be able to just talk about how bad for counterfeit medications are and how important it is to buy the real medications from real pharmacies.

Right.

And I was asking her, but what does it say about the pharmaceutical companies and the health care system in this country when 20 million Americans can't afford their life-saving medications?

What do you think that says?

And she says, oh, I don't, you know, the medications, they're too expensive.

We have to figure out a way to bring prices down.

And, you know, they always say that it's not for profit.

It's for research and development, which is bullshit.

Right.

Because a lot of it is used for marketing and a lot of it is used for its profit, right?

Of course.

They're making a fucking ton of money out of it.