Mariana van Zeller

I'm a very optimistic person.

And I always thought, you know.

There's great ways of using social media like you do, but with young people nowadays.

Yeah, but that's what I think is harder and harder to do.

To create a vision.

To create a vision, I know, in this country.

And it was what we thought was going to happen when the Arab Spring happened, you know, because everybody has a phone.

And finally, we were able to film these amazing, you know, revolutions.

But I think that promise has sort of waited a little bit.

I have to point out one thing you said, how scams are not as prevalent these days.

Online fraud is crazy.

Because we're living in the golden age of scams.

So really fun.

I'm going to come on your podcast next year once I'm done with this project.

But I'm working on a really fun project for National Geographic, which is where I say yes to every single scam that comes my way.

I've been filming it for a few months, and it's been the craziest, wildest journey of my life.

I just can tell you that I have romantic relationships with people.

I spend a lot of time on my burner phone with people love bombing me.

But it's a fake persona.

I put a wig and glasses.