Mariana van Zeller

No, I don't use AI.

We actually sort of modified.

We put a fake nose on me and a wig and glasses.

But people say it doesn't look at all like me.

I can see it's me.

But I will talk.

It's really fascinating.

But also to talk about scams, which I can talk about a lot, is we are living in the golden age of scams.

I think it was Warren Buffett that said fraud and scams are the number one growth industry of our time.

And one of the stories we did, which is so sad, and I hate to bring it down back to a sad topic, but is that we, I didn't know this before starting to report on it, which a lot of times you think, you know, these scammers, these guys that are texting and emailing you and calling you that these are, you know, people in West Africa or, you know, wherever, but like loan operators.

Well, we did a story about these scam factories.

Have you heard of these?

It's these compounds in places like Cambodia and Myanmar in Asia where they are – it's basically factories, but sometimes with thousands and thousands of people, forced labor.

So these are mostly people from India, sometimes Brazil, other Asian countries.

The Philippines is a big place where they respond to ads to work in what they think are legitimate businesses, to work in online companies and –

whatnot.

And they pay for their expenses to travel to these places, to Cambodia and Myanmar.

In Myanmar, they're operating out of this area that's an ongoing civil war and is ruled by these militias.

And they get in there and as soon as they get in, they take away their passports and they're trapped and they're forced to scam.

So they spend 24-7 scamming Americans and European people.