Marie Gleeson

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Now I find myself in this world and people have been so good to me over the last number of years, Clare, and I think sometimes we can listen to all the negativity and we can hear all this, that and the other about people and how we treat each other.

Like, I have a fabulous network of support, but I meet the best people, whether it's in private sector companies, not-for-profits, public sector entities, like I meet great people and most of them want to be able to work better together in teams and most of them want to treat each other well and

You know, that's what's great about us.

I don't know.

I have a suspicion, but I don't know.

And if it's who I think it is, I never would have thought they'd mess it into a radio show.

So I didn't know anything about it.

But yeah, I just think, yeah, look, the Navy made me the woman I am.

But Kiran gave me the bravery to walk away.

when it would have been easier to stay in a lot of respects.