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I nearly fell off my chair.

I thought, here's the president sounding just like me.

What's going on here?

So then we had the first Maha report, the first Make America Healthy Again report, which talked about a lot of these issues and put in an aspirational agenda.

We're going to work on this, this, this, this, this, and this.

All of that sounded terrific.

And then the second report came out, and they had backed off on nearly all of the things that I thought were really critically important.

Oh, from the beginning.

I'm a public health person.

I see vaccination as one of the—well, first of all, I'm old enough that I remember what it was like when we didn't have vaccinations.

You know, I remember what it was like to be a kid in the era of polio.

You couldn't go swimming in the summer.

You couldn't play with your friends in the summer.

It was terrifying, absolutely terrifying.

You never knew when something absolutely terrible was going to happen and paralyze you for life.

I remember what it was like before measles vaccines, when kids were sick, kids died, just like kids are getting sick and dying now.

And to go back to that makes no sense to me at all.

Oh, marketing to children, reduction of ultra-processed foods, cleaning up food in schools, getting the toxins out of the food supply at the production level, and other kinds of things that there were things that

had to do not only with Health and Human Services, but also with the Department of Agriculture and the Environmental Protection Agency.

But these things didn't happen.