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You know, there's rich cultural heritage there.

both in the Irish side and the Ghanaian side, which you need to bring into a child's life or to see, as we did in Harmony, that, you know, I think role models are an important thing as well to see people in positions, in jobs.

And I think, thankfully, there's a lot of...

that now around.

I did.

And I suppose the difference there to that young woman's family was, you know, I was a young white woman and really didn't have an understanding of racism and the complexity of it operating at all.

you know, personal, societal and institutional levels.

I've learned a lot, and in fact, it set me on a course.

But I did, and I still would have hoped, and I think I'm the eternal optimist, you know, that people would just come to their senses.

And people who don't necessarily have a personal connection with somebody...

but that they would see it as for society's sake, they need to take a stand on it as well and speak out because staying silent doesn't help at all.

You know, so it's good to hear people coming on, talking, that man that was talking about his three daughters and making that empathy connection, you know, that if it was my family or if this was happening or why is it happening?

But, you know, I'm a bit low today and sad and frustrated and angry because, you know, it's just going on.

And we have to have hope and we have to have hope in people's shared humanity.

No, well, the Harmony Group certainly provided a huge amount of support.

I have lifelong friends going back to that time.

You know, even people that have emigrated, I've visited them in Vancouver and other places.

And when they come back to Ireland, we meet up.

I've friends here, you know, who would have been part.

And some of the children who were part of the Harmony Group stay in touch.