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Mark Berman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
552 total appearances

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Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

And many people might be thinking, well, maybe it's just because walking in nature is pleasant and people really like the walk in nature.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

Participants did enjoy the walk in nature for the most part.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

But we didn't see a strong correlation between how much people liked to walk or how much their mood improved on the walk in nature being correlated with their improvements on this working memory task, this backwards digispan task.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

So it wasn't the case that just the people who loved the nature walk so much were the ones who showed the biggest improvement.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

And an even stronger demonstration of this is that we had participants walk at different times of the year.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

So some people walked in June when it was about 80 degrees Fahrenheit in Ann Arbor, Michigan, and participants said, oh, Mark, I love the walk.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

I can't believe you're paying me to go for a walk in nature.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

They showed really healthy mood improvements, and they also showed really healthy improvements to directed attention as measured with this backwards digi-span task.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

But we also had people walk in January when it was 25 degrees Fahrenheit.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

And participants said, Mark, I was freezing out there.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

I did not like that walk in nature.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

But those participants that walked in January showed the same cognitive improvement as the people that walked in June.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

So sort of the short answer is to get these cognitive benefits, you don't even need to enjoy the nature walk to get the benefit.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

I think that's right to some extent.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

So I definitely don't think all of these effects are driven by preference.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

And you even have people that say, you know, I'm a city lover.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

I don't like being in nature.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

And we don't think that really matters.

Hidden Brain
How Nature Heals Us

However, I think if we would have sent those participants in January on the walk in nature without a coat and they were so uncomfortable, I think that would have used a lot of directed attention and they wouldn't have seen the nature effects.