Mark Dubowitz

That's not true.

So I want to just, again, just put it out there for your listeners.

They should just Google Ahmad, A-M-A-D program, and they should learn about the Ahmad program because it's detailed in US government documents, experts in Iran's nuclear program, including David Albright, who actually saw the archive, went in there, wrote a whole book on it.

And there's a lot of detail about how Iran had an active nuclear weapons program called Ahmad to build five nuclear weapons.

But I want to

Get to the JCPOA, because I actually think that's an interesting discussion for Scott and I to have, because I think there's things that we agree on there and things that we disagree on.

So this is a 2015 nuclear deal that Obama reaches.

It's negotiated painstakingly over two years between 2013 and 2015.

And it follows the interim agreement that the United States negotiated with Iran.

And it's in that interim agreement in 2013 where the United States for the first time actually gives Iran the right to enrich uranium.

There were five UN Security Council resolutions passed with the support of Russia and China that said Iran should have no enrichment capability and no plutonium reprocessing capability because of the fears that Iran would turn that into a nuclear weapons program.

But in 2013, they give that up.

2015, we reach the JCPOA.

And under the JCPOA, Iran is allowed to retain enrichment capability and reprocessing capability, but over time.

So Scott mentioned these sunsets.

I just want your listeners to understand what these sunsets are.

Essentially, the restrictions that are placed on Iran's nuclear program, and there's some really serious restrictions placed on it, especially in the short term.

And Scott's right.

The enriched material has to be shipped out, not to the French, but to the Russians, and

And there's restrictions on Iran's ability to operate these facilities in Atanz and Fordow.