Mark Dubowitz
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We agreed.
This is a reasonable debate.
Neither of us is crazy.
Neither of us is rational.
It is what would it take to get a deal with Iran?
I say this is the deal.
This has to be our red line.
Scott disagrees.
That's fine.
But we got to get a deal.
In that deal, we got to provide them financial incentives, right?
We're going to have to lift...
a certain number of sanctions because they're going to have to get something in return, okay?
We can argue about exactly how much, but I think our opening negotiating position is no sanctions relief, and then we'll get negotiated down from that, right?
I mean, Lex, I think a lot of this is about how do you position yourself for negotiation?
How do you come in with leverage?
And then how do you find areas of compromise where you satisfy your objectives?
One is Oman.
Two is...
the credible threat of military force needs to remain, right?