Mark Dubowitz

And Cyrus Accords would be, let's find an agreement between the United States and Israel and Iran, right?

That would be a remarkable transformation in the region if we could actually do that.

So imagine a Middle East.

And again, I know this sounds fanciful, but I think this is what Trump has in mind when he starts to talk about the things you're seeing in these truth posts is actually a Middle East that can be fundamentally transformed.

where we actually do bring peace between Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the rest of these countries.

I, by the way, completely agree with you on Syria.

The idea that we are trusting a former al-Qaeda, ISIS jihadist to rule Syria, I think is a big bet President Trump has made.

He's made it on the advice of MBS.

We'll see how that transforms.

or transpires and see if Syria is transformed.

But the notion that somehow we should just be rolling the dice, lifting all the sanctions and taking this former Al-Qaeda jihadist at his word is a big bet.

If we get the bet right, that is actually a remarkable occurrence because now all of a sudden Syria and Lebanon are brought into this Abraham Accords, Cyrus Accords,

And then we actually have what I think all three of us want is peace in the Middle East, stability in the Middle East.

I don't think we need democracy in the Middle East.

I think if the Middle East looked like the UAE, that'd be a pretty good Middle East.

I think we'd all be pretty comfortable with that if...

that kind of stability and prosperity.

And ultimately, you could put these countries on a pathway to greater democracy, the way that we did during the Cold War, where countries like Taiwan and South Korea that were military dictatorships ended up becoming pro-Western democracy.

So that's kind of stepping back, maybe a little bit Pollyannish, but I think we should also always keep in mind what a potential vision for peace could look like.

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