Mark Dubowitz

So we can make them all over again and not run this time.

Can I finish or are you good?

Yeah, I'm ready.

All right.

So I think that what President Trump is trying to do is learn, but not overlearn.

I think he understands the mistakes that have been made.

I think he's trying to rectify those mistakes.

And he also understands that American power is important.

It is a force for good in the world, even though we have made major mistakes.

I think there is a great danger amongst certain people

to believe that no power should ever be exercised, that all American power is a bad thing and a destructive thing, and sometimes to confuse major tactical decisions that have been made, whether it's been made by the Brits in World War II or the Americans or us or whoever it is in whatever war, with the fact that there is a strategic reality that we always have to be conscious about and that we have enemies.

This is not the Garden of Eden yet.

I hope the libertarians create one.

I want to go live there when they do, and Scott and I will be neighbors, believe it or not, living in that Garden of Eden together.

But there are major threats in this world, and we need to find the right balance.

balance between the overuse of military power and the underuse of military power.

If we want to avoid wars, we have to have serious deterrence because our enemies need to understand we will use selective and narrowly focused, overwhelming military power when we're facing threats like an Iranian nuclear weapon.

That is a serious threat.

It's a serious threat to us.

It's a serious threat to the region.