Mark Feinsand

I would say very, very little, and that's not a slight to Mattingly by any means.

Mattingly was already in the dugout.

He was already the bench coach.

So it wasn't like he and Rob Thompson were very tight.

I don't think there was a huge change in philosophy within the clubhouse or within the dugout with the managerial change.

I think sometimes it's, you know, we need a new voice.

They just need a little...

wake up call that, you know, this is not acceptable the way it's going.

This is the first change we're making.

And if it doesn't get better, we're going to make more.

And in the case of the players, you can't fire them, but you can trade them.

And Dave Dombrowski has never been afraid to shake things up with trade.

So, you know, if the Phillies got to late June and we're still wallowing under 500 and 10 games out of the wild card spot,

Dave Dombrowski wasn't just going to sit there and say, oh, well, this wasn't our year.

He was going to either try to make some moves to make something happen or to build a team for the future, but he wasn't going to sit by.

So I think it was a message to everybody that this is not the way this is going to go, and we're not just going to sit idly by and watch this happen.

I think it's up to Dombrowski.

I mean, the second that Rob Thompson was fired, maybe even I would go before that, the second Alex Cora was let go in Boston, the rumors began that Alex Cora was going to be the manager in Philly.

Yes, yes.

It was more than a rumor.