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The Tony Kornheiser Show

“Name names!"

20 May 2026

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Chapter 1: How is Tony's vegetable garden faring in the early heat?

0.031 - 13.768 Tony Kornheiser

Hey, it's Tony. On today's show, we'll talk baseball with Mark Feinstein, and we'll check in with Tim Legler about that huge comeback win by the Knicks in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals last night. But first, commerce.

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Previously on the Tony Kornheiser Show. You know, normally I'll go just the regular, but salt and vinegars are the ones. But if I'll sit there like a complete fat slob and eat the whole sleeve, if you eat a whole sleeve of Pringles and they're the salt and vinegars, I mean, your tongue and mouth might have problems for a couple of days. It's not recommended, but, God, they're delicious.

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37.366 - 47.655 Tony Kornheiser

So you sit there with that entire canister? There must be hundreds of them in there. Yeah, don't tell Val Sands. We don't do that when Val Sands is in there.

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This is General George Washington, and you're listening to The Tony Kornheiser Show.

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55.687 - 63.94 Tony Kornheiser

I have to say that I love when Steve refers to his wife as Val Sands all the time. He never calls her Val. It's always Val Sands.

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It just makes me so happy. It's brought up right. To listen to that. 80 to 100 chips approximately in a can of Pringles.

70.79 - 71.812 Tony Kornheiser

It's just too much.

Chapter 2: What happened in the Knicks vs. Cavaliers game?

71.872 - 72.433 Unknown

Once you pop.

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72.933 - 84.483 Tony Kornheiser

It's too much. It's too much. Um... We had two incredibly hot days, Monday and Tuesday. Is today going to be that hot as well? There's supposed to be storms.

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84.583 - 90.412 Unknown

Yeah, chances of some big storms later this afternoon. Yes to the heat, not as bad as yesterday. Yesterday was worse than Monday.

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90.832 - 115.011 Tony Kornheiser

So I go out early in the morning to check on the tomatoes and peppers all the time. And then I go out around noon with a big jug of water. Neighborhood watch. You know, to pour water on the tomatoes and the peppers. That's all we have in the ground. You may have noticed we don't have potatoes in the ground. Not yet. We're hoping to have potatoes in the ground Memorial Day.

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115.171 - 118.736 Tony Kornheiser

The potatoes are slowly rotting. It's okay. We're hoping for that.

119.117 - 128.149 Unknown

We have a lot of different people working on this now. The tomatoes have been procured. They are safely tucked away in the pantry. Have you seen the potatoes?

129.451 - 144.906 Tony Kornheiser

There is a dispute on the potatoes. The dispute is there is some reason to believe the potatoes have to be organic potatoes. The potatoes that are in the pantry are not labeled organic.

144.987 - 146.709 Unknown

Are they organic? Do we know?

146.809 - 159.42 Tony Kornheiser

I don't know. I would have thought that everything was organic just by definition. I think you leave the potatoes alone. They'll sprout. Okay, well, that's what we're doing. Don't you think we should put them in a brown paper bag? I put a brown paper bag next to them, which I think is good enough.

Chapter 3: What insights does Mark Feinsand share about the Phillies' resurgence?

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Yeah, after they had two good chances to close the game out themselves.

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299.132 - 319.993 Tony Kornheiser

You have, in the sixth inning, you have bases loaded, nobody out. You got to get two. You're down two. They only get one. Guys strike out. You know, they strike out in those situations. Can't do that. I'm not going to name names, but they do it all the time. Name names. Anyway, they get to, so they lose that game in an absurd way. And game one of a four-game series. Yes, yes.

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320.013 - 321.176 Tony Kornheiser

It's an absurd way to lose.

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When you don't play that many games anymore in Division.

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323.913 - 332.756 Tony Kornheiser

I was surprised to see the paucity of the crowd the last two nights. It's a good crowd, but I sort of thought it would be a great crowd.

332.776 - 343.3 Unknown

I sort of thought Mets... I'm not surprised, but you had a lot of people show up for the Orioles game. This is sort of the last couple weeks of school. Yes, filled, beautiful. filled, stadium filled three games in a row. Yeah, some college kids were already out of town.

343.64 - 367.522 Tony Kornheiser

Yeah, well, okay. So anyway, so they lose the first game, they go one game under 500. They had reached 500 for the first time in like four years. Two steps forward. One back, okay. But now last night, These games, you know how baseball has been sped up by the pitch clock? These games are taking four and five hours. They're the longest games in recorded Western history at this point.

368.243 - 386.391 Tony Kornheiser

So last night, the Mets made a million errors They made throwing errors. They made fielding errors. The Nats won the game. Both managers were so disgusted with their starting pitchers that they left them in to rot. To rot for five, six innings. Griffin and McNeil.

386.431 - 393.06 Unknown

Now you mentioned the late inning from the night before. The Mets immediately come out. Bichette hits two home runs in the first two innings.

Chapter 4: How are the White Sox performing this season?

537.379 - 543.966 Tony Kornheiser

I think he got one hit. He did. He had not the first two at-bats, but he got wood on the ball the first two at-bats, and then he got a hit.

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Yeah, over the first two months, he's been hitting the ball very hard. So they're hoping that will translate and hopefully the strikeouts are down.

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550.232 - 562.303 Tony Kornheiser

They sent Brady House down. This was going to be their starting third baseman for years to come. They sent him down and Joey Weimer, who nobody could get out the first month of the season.

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562.323 - 569.209 Unknown

I think that's the toughest one to sell. I mean, that's the player you really need for the entirety of the summer. What are you doing? You ran out of options. Where to put him in the outfield?

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569.229 - 576.958 Tony Kornheiser

What are you doing? Put him at first. Well, they got Meade. They don't know what to do with Weimer. Now your theory on that is that's just about money.

577.178 - 591.402 Unknown

I think for Cruz in particular, it's about money just in terms of trying to delay when free agency could and would happen. I think for House, it's probably a little bit simpler just in terms of you're now deep enough into the season where the errors are starting to pile up. And is that starting to affect the rest of the play?

591.382 - 601.975 Tony Kornheiser

Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, this is how it goes. I don't know this, what's his name? Spike Butera? What's his first name? Braden Butera?

602.075 - 602.716 Unknown

Blake Butera.

602.996 - 620.697 Tony Kornheiser

Blake Butera, that's his name, the manager. I don't know anything about him, except he looks like a little doll. He's a very young person. He's two years older than the pitching coach, however, who looks like a kid who delivers newspapers in the old days when newspapers were delivered, when there were newspapers. Ride the bike out to the mound. I don't know anything about Butera.

Chapter 5: What are the early season challenges faced by the Yankees?

813.037 - 834.322 Tony Kornheiser

Let me just say this on a personal level. I baked, last week, I made the sourdough bread. Spectacular. It's really good. It was spectacular. And I keep croissants in the house. Yeah. In case Michael and the family drop by. And then in, you know, 15 to 20 minutes, they have stuff that they love. Waiting for the invite? Yeah. You're invited. Okay. You're always welcome. Always welcome.

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834.342 - 852.817 Tony Kornheiser

You're listening to The Tony Kornheiser Show. This is our friend Don Stewart. We play his stuff all the time. We like him. This song comes from an album titled Don Stewart, volume 47. He writes, I haven't written any new songs since last February because I had surgery called the triple A's surgery. It was tough, but at least it's over with.

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852.837 - 869.303 Tony Kornheiser

Also, I really enjoyed you getting mad about not being able to watch the Nats games on Peacock. when you're paying $327 per month. My wife and I pay over $300 for cable, and we like to watch Yankee games. However, we never get to watch Yankee games when they play against the Nats and the Royals, and it's been like this for years. Thanks for playing my songs.

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869.323 - 888.847 Tony Kornheiser

It's one of the highlights of my boring life. Thanks also for making me laugh, even though it hurts to laugh because of my surgery. This is Don Stewart, and it's called First in Line. It plays in Mark Feinstein, and this segment with Mark Feinstein is brought to you by FanDuel. Play your game. Can I start with Philadelphia and the turnaround in Philadelphia, which appears to be a real turnaround?

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888.867 - 890.749 Tony Kornheiser

What are your thoughts on that?

890.769 - 907.268 Mark Feinsand

Well, it's a good place to start. As I am in Philadelphia, I've been at the ballpark the last two days. You know, a couple things. It's easy to look at the managerial change and say, oh, a little kick in the pants for the team. That's all well and good. Let's look at where the Phillies were when they started this season.

907.248 - 922.573 Mark Feinsand

They had a 10-game losing streak that looked like their season was just going to go into oblivion. That 10-game streak came against the Braves, who have been the best team in the game, and the Cubs, who have been among the best teams in the game. All 10 of those games were against the Braves and the Cubs.

922.553 - 937.416 Mark Feinsand

So one of the first things that happened for the Phillies is they stopped having to play the Brazen Cubs every day. Now, that said, they also got Zach Wheeler back. He's been their ace for several years, and getting him back into the rotation certainly helped. Since he came back... Zach Wheeler and Alan Nola.

937.577 - 938.358 Tony Kornheiser

That's a one-two.

Chapter 6: What does Tim Legler think about the Knicks' comeback win?

1128.209 - 1146.067 Mark Feinsand

Dave Dombrowski wasn't just going to sit there and say, oh, well, this wasn't our year. He was going to either try to make some moves to make something happen or to build a team for the future, but he wasn't going to sit by. So I think it was a message to everybody that this is not the way this is going to go, and we're not just going to sit idly by and watch this happen.

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1146.408 - 1158.562 Tony Kornheiser

Dave Dombrowski does whatever he wants to do, like Lou Lamarillo in hockey. He does whatever he wants to do, and he's got a great track record. But, and there's a but here, The nominal general manager of that team is Don Mattingly's son.

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1159.344 - 1175.631 Tony Kornheiser

So I think you have to go easy on Don Mattingly or, you know, just know what you're doing because you could alienate an entire family, which you don't want to do. Is your thought that he will be the manager next year? Is it up to him or is it up to Dombrowski?

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1176.168 - 1196.083 Mark Feinsand

I think it's up to Dombrowski. I mean, the second that Rob Thompson was fired, maybe even I would go before that, the second Alex Cora was let go in Boston, the rumors began that Alex Cora was going to be the manager in Philly. Yes, yes. It was more than a rumor. David Dombrowski confirmed that he called Alex Cora and offered him the job before he'd even fired Rob Thompson.

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1196.063 - 1217.987 Mark Feinsand

There is still a prevailing thought that Mattingly is a placeholder this year and that if Alex Cora wants the job for 2027 and beyond, it will probably go to him. That said, if Mattingly has a run like Rob Thompson had three years ago and gets to the World Series, well, then it's going to be harder for them to justify not bringing Mattingly.

1217.967 - 1244.38 Mark Feinsand

back but you know madley came into this year thinking that his managerial days were behind him and you know he had done the uh bench coach thing in toronto i think they called me offensive coordinator up there uh and he came back to be a bench coach in philly um this year but i don't think donnie came here with the idea of i'm gonna be the guy to save the day when you know when rob thompson gets the axe yeah um you know him and rob will go way back to their days of the yankees

1244.36 - 1260.208 Mark Feinsand

And I think this was more of a circumstance than anything else. So if I had to, you know, handicap the managerial race for the Phillies for 2027, I'd still say Alice core is probably the favorite, but I think Mattingly is certainly on the board and in that number two position.

1260.188 - 1280.391 Tony Kornheiser

Yeah, because my entire life revolves around Michael Wilbon. I want to get to something we wouldn't normally get to. And that is my great pleasure that the Chicago White Sox walked off the Cubs a few days ago, making Wilbon insane, made me very happy. Although he'll just say, well, it's another Chicago team. So I root for them, too, even though you can't root for two teams. But.

1280.371 - 1291.005 Tony Kornheiser

I look at the White Sox. If you want to look at a team in turnaround, I understand the American League isn't nearly as good as the National League, but aren't you surprised that the White Sox are so much better than you thought?

Chapter 7: What are the highlights of the Nats vs. Mets series?

1601.443 - 1622.734 Mark Feinsand

But this year he has been probably the best pitcher in the American league and You know, 135 ERA, a ton of strikeouts. He's really, really good. He's 25, and the Yankees haven't had a homegrown kid like this in a while, pitching-wise. And so for him to be doing what he's doing, very exciting development for the Yankees.

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1622.933 - 1627.198 Tony Kornheiser

Thank you, as always. Thanks for being on the show. We are going to lean on you because that's what we do.

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1627.218 - 1646.202 Mark Feinsand

Thank you, Mark. And thank you for the constant Rick Devins updates because I've been a huge Survivor fan forever. And I connected with Devins once I found out he was a fan of the show. And I've been able to pick his brain during the course of this season, even though he's not allowed to tell me anything real. But, man, I was really disappointed when he got voted off.

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1646.222 - 1648.705 Mark Feinsand

And I hope you guys have him on because it will be a really fun spot.

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1648.685 - 1662.087 Tony Kornheiser

I'm happy to do it. He's in this business. He can talk. We're sure of that. Thank you, Mark. Thanks, Tony. This segment with Mark Feinstein has been brought to you by FanDuel. Play your game. And we will have Tim Legler when we return. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

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You're listening to The Tony Kornheiser Show.

1669.407 - 1675.336 Tony Kornheiser

Once again, this is our friend Don Stewart. This is Tear of Light. T-E-A-R, Tear of Light.

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I believe so, yes, Tear.

1676.558 - 1677.479 Tony Kornheiser

He's really good.

Chapter 8: What questions does Tony answer from the Mailbag?

1938.301 - 1948.675 Tim Legler

And so let's go back to this. Jalen Brunson, simplification. Let me pick who I want to play against. And the Cavs allowed him to pick who he wanted to play against. And he saw the result.

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1948.655 - 1969.385 Tony Kornheiser

I am not a believer that game one means anything most of the time. I usually think it's the easiest game. To win the easiest game to lose doesn't really mean a whole lot. I feel differently about this one. Maybe I'm wrong. But this is – the Cleveland Cavaliers were handed a ticket. You have to cash the ticket. You have to, right?

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1969.666 - 1992.212 Tim Legler

You have to. Yeah. I mean, look, this is tough to come back from because, look, you know going in for the road team – To win the series, you have to win a game in the gardens. The Knicks don't have to win on the road in this series. The Cavs do. And when are you going to be in a better position to win a game than they just were last night? So I hear what you're saying.

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1992.532 - 2011.682 Tim Legler

Because even in the moment, I'm thinking, look, being honest, I'm expecting the Knicks to lose that game, as I'm calling it, when they're down 22. Of course you're thinking that. Even then, you're kind of thinking like, okay, well, it's one loss for the Knicks. I feel like the way they're playing, they're in a better place than the Cavs coming into this game.

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2012.083 - 2023.566 Tim Legler

Like, they're going to be okay as long as they win game two. They can still win this series. For the Cavs, first of all, I never crossed my mind that they would lose that game. But once it got late, and now this is hanging in the balance.

2023.546 - 2045.941 Tim Legler

Thinking to myself, if they cough this up, this is very difficult to recover from this because you might not get another game in this series where you stifle the Knicks offense to the extent that you just did. Because the way they were playing coming in. Now, the Knicks might go for 65 points in the first half of game two. I agree with that. Yes. They might be completely ready to go now.

2046.001 - 2055.994 Tim Legler

And now what do you do? At least you had it corralled. You've just got to close the deal. And it was both ends. And your offense let them down just as much as their defense. Just terrible.

2056.194 - 2064.825 Tony Kornheiser

Let me move to the other series and ask you the question that it's the only question that matters. How good is Wemba Nyama? How good?

2064.957 - 2089.817 Tim Legler

Yeah, I mean, what is so different is there have been really big guys that have roamed the lane and protected the rim. I played with one in George Maristown in Washington. We talk about guys like Manute Ball and Sean Bradley and Ralph Sampson, even, who was pretty mobile. There's been nothing like this. A guy that's this long that has this kind of mobility, even to the point

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