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Mark Fisher

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Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Yeah, the FBI has used polygraph tests for decades as just kind of a routine check on basic security questions that everybody has to pass to have access to the kind of secure information that the FBI traffics in.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So obviously, since that's the case for special agents across the country, it's equally the case for the people running the FBI, such as the deputy director, Dan Bongino.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So why was Bongino given this exemption?

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

That's gone unstated by the FBI.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

The assumption among many current and former agents is that he flunked a polygraph or had reason to flunk a polygraph and therefore was allowed to skip it.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

This is something that does not sit well with others in the FBI because

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

They want to be able to trust the people around them, particularly the people above them, but their colleagues as well.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And one thing that gives them that sense of trust is they know everybody's passed the same security hurdles.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And when the number two in the agency gets a buy on that, that causes a lot of unhappiness in the ranks.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Yes, that's exactly right.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Bongino was somebody who was known to the president as somebody who did very well on Fox News, who appeared frequently on Fox News.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And in the president's mind, the people running the FBI ought to be folks who are well known to the public.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

and who make the president's case very avidly, very effectively.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And Bongino is seen as a tough guy.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Trump loves tough guys.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

He loves guys who seem like stand-up aggressive advocates for the MAGA movement.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And Bongino very much fit that bill.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So looks the part.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

That's the number one qualification frequently in Trump's mind.

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How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And Bongino fit that part in a way that perhaps Kash Patel didn't.