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Mark Fisher

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303 total appearances

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Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Patel was, in the president's mind, the ultimate loyalist, someone he could absolutely trust.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So this was a team that you could see the president really envisioning as complementary.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And so the fact that neither of these guys had any experience in the FBI didn't seem to matter much.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

FBI directors in the past have generally had long careers in criminal justice.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

There have been judges.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

There have been prosecutors, people who served as U.S.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

attorneys running some of the largest U.S.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

attorney's offices in the country, whether that be in New York or elsewhere.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

They are people who have come up through the system and have long histories of public service.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

And so Kash Patel has some of that.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Kash Patel indeed has been a public servant his entire life.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

He's never worked for anyone but the government, except for some small businesses that he started on his own.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

between the two Trump administrations.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Patel, however, never had that kind of long-standing experience with the FBI directly.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

He did serve in the Justice Department in the first Trump administration.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

He was on the national security side of the Justice Department, and we worked on some counterterrorism cases.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

That's something that the FBI also does, but he didn't have the experience that his predecessors had in running an agency or in the sort of street crime that the G-men of the FBI have always been known for in the public imagination.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So there were a lot of people within the bureau who were very concerned that he would be coming in without the knowledge base, without the years of experience that would tell him how the FBI works, how its relationship with the Justice Department operates.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

So there was concern about his relative inexperience.

Fresh Air
How Kash Patel Is Changing The FBI’s Mission

Beyond that, I think there was a lot of concern that he was coming in as essentially a tool of Donald Trump, essentially someone who was going to be sort of forwarding the president's political agenda rather than sort of fighting for the men and women of the FBI.