Mark Follman

That's real and that matters. But I don't think that's causing anyone to go commit a school massacre.

That's real and that matters. But I don't think that's causing anyone to go commit a school massacre.

Yeah, so that question, I think, for obvious reasons, comes up a lot or is on people's minds, and it really falls into the category we're talking about of response and reaction to the perceived threat or danger of this problem in the country, right? In the last decade, we've watched lockdown drills become the norm in schools.

Yeah, so that question, I think, for obvious reasons, comes up a lot or is on people's minds, and it really falls into the category we're talking about of response and reaction to the perceived threat or danger of this problem in the country, right? In the last decade, we've watched lockdown drills become the norm in schools.

Yeah, so that question, I think, for obvious reasons, comes up a lot or is on people's minds, and it really falls into the category we're talking about of response and reaction to the perceived threat or danger of this problem in the country, right? In the last decade, we've watched lockdown drills become the norm in schools.

We didn't grow up with that, but now it's thought, if not most places, that you got to teach teachers and kids what to do if this happens, which the probability of it happening is so small. It's infinitesimally small.

We didn't grow up with that, but now it's thought, if not most places, that you got to teach teachers and kids what to do if this happens, which the probability of it happening is so small. It's infinitesimally small.

We didn't grow up with that, but now it's thought, if not most places, that you got to teach teachers and kids what to do if this happens, which the probability of it happening is so small. It's infinitesimally small.

So there's questions about that too, but there is some conflicted thinking about the effectiveness of that kind of training, run, hide, fight approach, what you're supposed to do if this happens, shelter in place, should you leave, should you try to fight back if you have to. At the end of the day, I guess my response to it is like, is that really the most important question for us to be asking?

So there's questions about that too, but there is some conflicted thinking about the effectiveness of that kind of training, run, hide, fight approach, what you're supposed to do if this happens, shelter in place, should you leave, should you try to fight back if you have to. At the end of the day, I guess my response to it is like, is that really the most important question for us to be asking?

So there's questions about that too, but there is some conflicted thinking about the effectiveness of that kind of training, run, hide, fight approach, what you're supposed to do if this happens, shelter in place, should you leave, should you try to fight back if you have to. At the end of the day, I guess my response to it is like, is that really the most important question for us to be asking?

Should we be trying to really focus on what to do in the very improbable situation happening? Or should we be thinking more about what we can do to get on the front side of this? In the world of law enforcement and military, they call left of bang. You don't want the bang to happen at all. And sure, you should be prepared for... low probability disasters.

Should we be trying to really focus on what to do in the very improbable situation happening? Or should we be thinking more about what we can do to get on the front side of this? In the world of law enforcement and military, they call left of bang. You don't want the bang to happen at all. And sure, you should be prepared for... low probability disasters.

Should we be trying to really focus on what to do in the very improbable situation happening? Or should we be thinking more about what we can do to get on the front side of this? In the world of law enforcement and military, they call left of bang. You don't want the bang to happen at all. And sure, you should be prepared for... low probability disasters.

We do it with earthquakes and fire and flooding and plane crashes and all these other things that can happen aren't likely to happen. I'm just not sure that we should really even focus so much energy on having everyone know what's your best chance of defeating an active shooter. It's just not going to happen. It's not going to happen to you. It's not going to happen to me, hopefully.

We do it with earthquakes and fire and flooding and plane crashes and all these other things that can happen aren't likely to happen. I'm just not sure that we should really even focus so much energy on having everyone know what's your best chance of defeating an active shooter. It's just not going to happen. It's not going to happen to you. It's not going to happen to me, hopefully.

We do it with earthquakes and fire and flooding and plane crashes and all these other things that can happen aren't likely to happen. I'm just not sure that we should really even focus so much energy on having everyone know what's your best chance of defeating an active shooter. It's just not going to happen. It's not going to happen to you. It's not going to happen to me, hopefully.

Can civilians even stop an active shooter?

Can civilians even stop an active shooter?

Can civilians even stop an active shooter?