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Mark Follman

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

There's significant evidence, and in her view too, that he didn't really identify with incel ideology per se. He certainly had grievances against women. There was a lot of vile misogyny in his writing toward the end of his life and in his video. That's all legitimately there in the case and in the story of what he became and what he did. But was that the cause of what he did?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

There's significant evidence, and in her view too, that he didn't really identify with incel ideology per se. He certainly had grievances against women. There was a lot of vile misogyny in his writing toward the end of his life and in his video. That's all legitimately there in the case and in the story of what he became and what he did. But was that the cause of what he did?

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

No, I don't think it was. Is that video still online? It can be found. I think like anything that's been on the internet, if you really want to find it, you can.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

No, I don't think it was. Is that video still online? It can be found. I think like anything that's been on the internet, if you really want to find it, you can.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

No, I don't think it was. Is that video still online? It can be found. I think like anything that's been on the internet, if you really want to find it, you can.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

But the final video that he put out literally minutes before he began his attack was the horrible one where he was like filming himself at the beach the night before and saying, tomorrow's my day of retribution and saying all this vile, misogynistic, hateful stuff. And that became the story of him. But he created a number of videos in the run up to that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

But the final video that he put out literally minutes before he began his attack was the horrible one where he was like filming himself at the beach the night before and saying, tomorrow's my day of retribution and saying all this vile, misogynistic, hateful stuff. And that became the story of him. But he created a number of videos in the run up to that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

But the final video that he put out literally minutes before he began his attack was the horrible one where he was like filming himself at the beach the night before and saying, tomorrow's my day of retribution and saying all this vile, misogynistic, hateful stuff. And that became the story of him. But he created a number of videos in the run up to that.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

And the ones he did weeks prior to that were very different. They were not performative in that way of rage and telling what his plans were because he didn't want to be discovered till the last minute. Before that, he was airing his grievances and his pain in a much more subtle way. that some people did see and were worried about, including his mother. That's part of the story too.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

And the ones he did weeks prior to that were very different. They were not performative in that way of rage and telling what his plans were because he didn't want to be discovered till the last minute. Before that, he was airing his grievances and his pain in a much more subtle way. that some people did see and were worried about, including his mother. That's part of the story too.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

And the ones he did weeks prior to that were very different. They were not performative in that way of rage and telling what his plans were because he didn't want to be discovered till the last minute. Before that, he was airing his grievances and his pain in a much more subtle way. that some people did see and were worried about, including his mother. That's part of the story too.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

It basically set off a welfare check. She contacted authorities along with a social worker in Isla Vista, called from LA and said, I'm worried about my son. I can't get in touch with him. I saw this video, please check on him. They went out to his apartment. He answered the door and presented as normal. He's like, I'm fine. My mom's a worry ward. I don't know why she called you guys.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

It basically set off a welfare check. She contacted authorities along with a social worker in Isla Vista, called from LA and said, I'm worried about my son. I can't get in touch with him. I saw this video, please check on him. They went out to his apartment. He answered the door and presented as normal. He's like, I'm fine. My mom's a worry ward. I don't know why she called you guys.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

It basically set off a welfare check. She contacted authorities along with a social worker in Isla Vista, called from LA and said, I'm worried about my son. I can't get in touch with him. I saw this video, please check on him. They went out to his apartment. He answered the door and presented as normal. He's like, I'm fine. My mom's a worry ward. I don't know why she called you guys.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

He was very good at concealing his torment and his planning. But the videos were very interesting because I think to an objective viewer, they were strange too. They were like, I just saw the one where he's in his car and his cadence is weird. He's just a very strange guy. His social skills were lacking. He had some developmental disabilities. He was thought to be on the spectrum.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

He was very good at concealing his torment and his planning. But the videos were very interesting because I think to an objective viewer, they were strange too. They were like, I just saw the one where he's in his car and his cadence is weird. He's just a very strange guy. His social skills were lacking. He had some developmental disabilities. He was thought to be on the spectrum.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

He was very good at concealing his torment and his planning. But the videos were very interesting because I think to an objective viewer, they were strange too. They were like, I just saw the one where he's in his car and his cadence is weird. He's just a very strange guy. His social skills were lacking. He had some developmental disabilities. He was thought to be on the spectrum.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

There are issues with social behavior that come up with that. So I think a lot of people saw that and thought like he's weird or whatever. But definitely the point here is that people who saw that video- I think we're right in feeling like something's off here. And that's the fundamental point here too.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

There are issues with social behavior that come up with that. So I think a lot of people saw that and thought like he's weird or whatever. But definitely the point here is that people who saw that video- I think we're right in feeling like something's off here. And that's the fundamental point here too.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1140: Mark Follman | How to Stop Mass Shootings in America

There are issues with social behavior that come up with that. So I think a lot of people saw that and thought like he's weird or whatever. But definitely the point here is that people who saw that video- I think we're right in feeling like something's off here. And that's the fundamental point here too.