Mark Follman

I'm desperate, I don't wanna live anymore, everyone hates me, I hate everyone, whatever that sort of narrative is, well then how can I explain to myself that I'm going to take my own life and the lives of others? That's a very hard thing to do. Most people aren't gonna do that. To bring yourself to take your own life or to kill other people,

There's a high bar to that, I think, for most human beings, right? You need justification. And so bullying can be justification. Misogyny can be justification. Political ideology can be justification. And you can see that in this behavioral process too. In Elliot Rodgers' case, he had ideas of hating women for a long time, and he articulated them privately in his journals.

There's a high bar to that, I think, for most human beings, right? You need justification. And so bullying can be justification. Misogyny can be justification. Political ideology can be justification. And you can see that in this behavioral process too. In Elliot Rodgers' case, he had ideas of hating women for a long time, and he articulated them privately in his journals.

There's a high bar to that, I think, for most human beings, right? You need justification. And so bullying can be justification. Misogyny can be justification. Political ideology can be justification. And you can see that in this behavioral process too. In Elliot Rodgers' case, he had ideas of hating women for a long time, and he articulated them privately in his journals.

Which were not public until I did the story. What he did online in the final year of his life is what the whole incel story came out of because he was on some of those forums posting comments.

Which were not public until I did the story. What he did online in the final year of his life is what the whole incel story came out of because he was on some of those forums posting comments.

Which were not public until I did the story. What he did online in the final year of his life is what the whole incel story came out of because he was on some of those forums posting comments.

One other thing I wanted to say about this was that by the time Elliot Rodger got there, which I was able to obtain comprehensively as online footprint in those forums, a lot of which was not public because it was all taken down immediately.

One other thing I wanted to say about this was that by the time Elliot Rodger got there, which I was able to obtain comprehensively as online footprint in those forums, a lot of which was not public because it was all taken down immediately.

One other thing I wanted to say about this was that by the time Elliot Rodger got there, which I was able to obtain comprehensively as online footprint in those forums, a lot of which was not public because it was all taken down immediately.

But in the first couple of days, you had some researchers and journalists grab some specific comments of him talking about incels that just labeled him as a big incel guy. There was actually a lot of evidence to the contrary in what I looked at. And that combined with the fact that he really became interested in that in his final year. And yet he'd already had this ideation for quite a while.

But in the first couple of days, you had some researchers and journalists grab some specific comments of him talking about incels that just labeled him as a big incel guy. There was actually a lot of evidence to the contrary in what I looked at. And that combined with the fact that he really became interested in that in his final year. And yet he'd already had this ideation for quite a while.

But in the first couple of days, you had some researchers and journalists grab some specific comments of him talking about incels that just labeled him as a big incel guy. There was actually a lot of evidence to the contrary in what I looked at. And that combined with the fact that he really became interested in that in his final year. And yet he'd already had this ideation for quite a while.

He'd already been planning. He had grievances. He had behavioral health issues. This, I argue in my story with a deep dive into all this evidence that that became his justification or solidified it further, that he found something in the online world that kind of, you know, reflected back to him what he wanted to tell himself.

He'd already been planning. He had grievances. He had behavioral health issues. This, I argue in my story with a deep dive into all this evidence that that became his justification or solidified it further, that he found something in the online world that kind of, you know, reflected back to him what he wanted to tell himself.

He'd already been planning. He had grievances. He had behavioral health issues. This, I argue in my story with a deep dive into all this evidence that that became his justification or solidified it further, that he found something in the online world that kind of, you know, reflected back to him what he wanted to tell himself.

He was telling himself a story about why he was going to kill himself and kill other people. And that became a vehicle for him in a certain sense. And you see that in a lot of these cases. But investigating that whole incel question further, and a big part of this was also getting to know his mother and talking to her about it because she was close with him.

He was telling himself a story about why he was going to kill himself and kill other people. And that became a vehicle for him in a certain sense. And you see that in a lot of these cases. But investigating that whole incel question further, and a big part of this was also getting to know his mother and talking to her about it because she was close with him.

He was telling himself a story about why he was going to kill himself and kill other people. And that became a vehicle for him in a certain sense. And you see that in a lot of these cases. But investigating that whole incel question further, and a big part of this was also getting to know his mother and talking to her about it because she was close with him.

There's significant evidence, and in her view too, that he didn't really identify with incel ideology per se. He certainly had grievances against women. There was a lot of vile misogyny in his writing toward the end of his life and in his video. That's all legitimately there in the case and in the story of what he became and what he did. But was that the cause of what he did?