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Mark Gagnon

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

Even in that darkness, some refused to look away.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

Some refused to join in.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

Some risked their own lives to protect strangers.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

Their courage doesn't erase the horror, but...

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

In a way, it matters, right, especially to the thousands who survived because of them.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

And I think the lesson of Nanjing isn't about Japan or about China.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

It's about what humans do when the restraints fall away and what some choose to do even then.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

The cruelty and the compassion happen side by side in the same city during the same winter.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

And both of these stories are real and should be remembered.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

The dead of Nanjing can't speak anymore.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

The survivors are almost gone, but the memory remains in museums and films and books and ultimately in the minds of people who refuse to forget this atrocity.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

Remembering is obviously painful and it's difficult to research and talk about, but I think it's important not to assign guilt about how these people are evil and these people are victims, but to understand the stakes of forgetting.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

winter came to nanjing in december 1937 and it brought six weeks of maybe the worst atrocity experienced uh one of the worst atrocities certainly experienced in the century that winter ended and the city rebuilt and life returned but the shadow never fully goes away and it sits in our history as a warning and a reminder the city survives the memory endures

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

And in that memory is hope, not that it will never happen again, but when history begins to rhyme, people will remember Nanjing and hopefully choose differently.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the story of the Nanjing Massacre.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

I mean, it's a heavy one, right?

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The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

Yeah.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

I mean, I don't know.

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

I do think about the...

Camp Gagnon
The UNSPEAKABLE Things That Happened At Nanjing

the uh mr rogers quote was like like isn't mr rogers i think it is could you google this but like in the face of any atrocity any terrible thing that happens it's like you can be consumed by how evil it is and you can just let like the grief and the horror consume you or you can look for the people that are doing good and try to contribute and in any type of atrocity any type of