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Mark Gagnon

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How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

basically mention a place called Wailusa.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Many scholars believe that this is the Hittite name for the city of Troy, corresponding to the Greek Ilios or Ilion.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

These same records mention a kingdom called Ahiawa, which most specialists think referred to, you know, broadly the Mycenaean world, though not everyone agrees.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Hittite texts do not name specific Greek cities, and the identification, while widely accepted, is not...

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

settled amongst every scholar.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

One Hittite text, known as the Alexandu Treaty, records this agreement between the Hittite king and the ruler of Wailusa, this man named Alexandu.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Now, Alexandu, interesting, sounds a lot like Alexander.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Anyway, that's a little side fact.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

And Paras, the guy from Troy, his other name in the Greek tradition was Alexander.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

You see what's happening?

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

You have the Alexandu Treaty, right?

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Alexandu, and then you have Paris, and his name is Alexander.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Now, many scholars see this as a genuine linguistic connection, a possible historical kernel behind this Paris tradition.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Yet others caution that it might be just completely coincidental and it was just a common naming pattern in the region.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

But either way, we have Hittite records mentioning a place that sounds a lot like Troy, ruled by a man whose name is literally Paris's or Paris's alternative name in diplomatic contact with people who sound a lot like the Greeks of Homer's story.

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How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Now, again, none of this proves that the Iliad is literally history, but it strongly suggests that the Trojan War legend was rooted in real Bronze Age conflicts between the Mycenaean Greeks and the peoples of Western Anatolia.

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How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

And then, around 1200 BC, the entire system collapsed.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Within a span of roughly 50 years, nearly every major civilization in the Eastern Mediterranean was either destroyed or just severely diminished.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

The Hittite Empire fell.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Mycenaean Greece was devastated, and the great palaces burned down, writing lost, trade networks destroyed.