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Mark Gagnon

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Egypt barely survived, and the cities across Levant were just completely demolished.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Now, scholars call this entire phenomena, the collapsing of all these civilizations in the region, the Late Bronze Age Collapse.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

And it remains one of the great mysteries of ancient history.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Like, what caused it?

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

And no one really knows, but there's, of course, many explanations.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

It was likely caused by some combination of drought plus famine plus civil war, internal rebellion, revolution, systemic failure, and then raids by the mysterious Sea Peoples.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Now, Troy's destruction around 1220 to 1180 BC fits pretty squarely within this catastrophe.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

It's very possible that the Trojan War was one event or even a series of events within the broader collapse.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

And it could have been a real Mycenaean military campaign against a wealthy Anatolian city that was just transformed over centuries of oral tradition to be this great epic story that we know today.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Now, the Trojan War, whether it happened exactly as it described or whether it ever happened at all, might be one of the most influential stories in the history of Western civilization.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Like for a war that we don't even know if it really happened, it's one of the most impactful wars ever.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

And the impact, I mean, is everywhere.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

The Iliad, by most accounts, is the oldest surviving work of Western literature.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Every epic poem, war novel, every story about heroes, glory, the cost of glory, in some sense is in the shadow of the Iliad.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

When Virgil wrote the Aeneid in the first century, he created Rome's national epic by having the Trojan prince Aeneas escape the fall of Troy and then eventually found a city called Rome.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

The Romans, the most powerful state in the ancient world, literally built their identity on being descendants of a Trojan refugee.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

I mean, the influence here is crazy.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

I mean, obviously, the Roman Empire extends all the way to Europe and England and then...

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

From England, we have America.

Camp Gagnon
How Achillies Became Greece's Deadliest Hero

Like, in a way, our founding myth is kind of predicated on this story that we don't even know if it's real.