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Mark Gagnon

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EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

Again, you have to understand that the Gnostics are thinking, okay, if Christ is this messenger, basically from the ultimate spirit, this monad, the supreme God, and comes to earth, how could

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

this supreme spirit have a physical form?

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

Wouldn't that make it the same as the creation of the demiurge?

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

So they basically tried to come up with a story to square that hole.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

So, you know, in the text, the narrator sees the crucifixion happening.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

He sees Jesus being nailed to the cross, but then he sees another Jesus standing above the cross, floating and like literally laughing at the entire event.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

And the narrator asks, Lord, who is this one glad and laughing on the tree?

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

And is it another one whose feet and hands they are striking?

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

And the Savior replied, he whom you saw on the tree, glad and laughing, this is the living Jesus.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

But this one into whose hands and feet they drive the nails is his fleshly part, which is the substitute being put to shame, the one who came into being in his likeness.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

Now, this is called docetism, the belief that Jesus didn't have a real physical body, that he wasn't fully human or that the divine spirit basically left the body before the pain actually started.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

Because basically, the text is saying the Romans thought that they won, that they killed Jesus Christ.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

But the real Jesus was standing right there laughing at how stupid they were because he

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

You can kill flesh, but you can't kill the spirit.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

Now, again, this is a controversial verse that is not accepted within mainstream Christianity, but it exists in the Nag Hammadi codices.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

Now, there's one more text that we have to talk about, because honestly, it's unlike anything else in the ancient world.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

It's called The Thunder Perfect Mind.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

It's a poem spoken in the voice of a female divine power.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

And to be honest, it's fascinating.

Camp Gagnon
EVERY Gospel The Church BANNED From The Bible

This female divine power describes herself in the text saying, for I am the first and the last.