Mark Gagnon

They say Ammon Hillman.

I don't know if you've ever heard him.

Yeah.

I've watched him on Danny Jones's pod, and he's so fascinating.

I mean, again, I think some of the stuff, I don't agree with his perspective, but just the way he... His perspective and the way he breaks stuff down, I just find to be...

It's just something naughty about it to me.

I don't know what it is.

We talked about it a little bit.

Again, he kind of comes from more my school of thought, which is like, these are sort of interesting kind of things written down by, you know, monks or spiritual people early on that were, you know, kind of like inserting their own philosophy into, you know, blending it with Christianity to make some type of new thing.

I think he gave it to me because I had sent him an episode that I did on Enoch.

Ah.

Or maybe it was even about the Nakamate library.

And when he made it, he was like, yeah, here you go.

Okay.

But I think he's, again, I don't want to speak for Wes, but my assumption is that he has a similar sort of, you know, dastardly curiosity in the Nakamate codices.

I mean, it is fascinating.

1,600 years ago, these texts were being passed around and read and copied and then completely buried only to be found by happenstance by a guy digging around near a mountain.

Crazy.

Right.

Yeah.