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Mark Gagnon

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

I mean, you can build pipelines and put aircraft carriers and develop alternative energy sources and all that stuff to help with the margins.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

But as long as the world depends on oil, specifically Persian Gulf oil, and as long as geography dictates that most of it has to pass through this tiny corridor in the middle of all these hostile states,

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

The Strait of Hormuz will remain what it has been for thousands of years, a pressure point, a flash pan.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

I mean, just it's a reminder that the modern world is not nearly as resilient as I would like to hope that it is.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

Now, this story about the Strait of Hormuz is, in a way, the story of humans' relationship with, you know, geography in and of itself.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

I'm a big, like, I'm a big fan of geography.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

I would consider, like, people use this term, but, like,

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

a geographical determinist, that basically the way I look at geopolitics is that the government is the player and your geography are the cards that you're dealt.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

Now, you can't control really the cards that you're dealt.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

You can sometimes go get new cards if you're brave enough.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

But really, your ability to play is dependent on the cards you have.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

And you can make decisions, but you're kind of confined by how many ports you have, how many natural resources you have, what kind of leverage you have over other countries, trade routes, all that stuff.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

So for millennia, empires have risen and fallen along the shores of the Persian Gulf, and every single one of them has had to reckon with this narrow passage of water at its mouth.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

The Persians, the Portuguese, the British, the Americans, they all recognize the same thing, that controlling the strait meant controlling the flow of wealth and power through one of the most resource-rich regions on the planet.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

Now, what's changed the scale?

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

So when Alfonso de Albuquerque, which there's no way that's his name.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

That's like a fake name from a guy from like New Mexico.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

Must have taken a wrong turn somewhere.

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

100%, right?

Camp Gagnon
How This Little River is RUINING AMERICA

So this guy, he basically built his fortress on Hormuz Island in 1515, and he was controlling the spice trade.