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Mark Gagnon

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Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

And who better to call than someone that had literally helped design the protocols?

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

So by the early 1950s, Olson had gone from a patriotic scientist trying to secure the nation to a man who had seen so much and had experienced so much that he started to question the entire system.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

And this entire world is built on secrecy.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

And in such a covert system, that kind of conscience doesn't just make you uncomfortable.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

It could make you a threat.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

Now, we get to the night where it all starts.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

On November 18th, 1953, a group of CIA officials and four Dietrich scientists were heading to a cabin at Deep Creek Lake in Maryland.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

Officially, this was a work retreat, but like most, you know,

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

CIA-related work retreats in the woods, it was actually a strategy meeting mixed with an off-the-books experiment.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

So at the table, you had Sidney Gottlieb, the CIA chemist who ran what would eventually become MKUltra, Robert Lashbrook, his deputy, and several members from SOD, including Frank Olson.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

They drank and they talked and they goofed around.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

But then at some point late in the evening, Gottlieb decided to run a test.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

Without telling them, he dosed the men's drinks with LSD and began to monitor their actions.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

Most of the men just kind of tripped out.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

They laughed.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

Eventually, they came down.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

And by the next day, they were, you know, a little shaken up, but they were functional, right?

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

Just a night out with the boys where you dose them a little LSD.

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

You know, what's the worst that could happen?

Camp Gagnon
The 'Only' Casualty of MK Ultra

However, Frank Olson was not okay.